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And I believe you are overstating the impact. Neither one of us has any actual data to support our position. Time will tell which one of us is correct.

My perspective, to piggyback on your analogy, is that FT is a very, very inaccurate thermometer, which frankly, is often wildly out of calibration.

Look, for as long as I've been on FT, posters in these forums and threads have continually been predicting the end of the world with every incremental program change. One poster used to continually yell that UA was "firing it's best customers" with every program change, literally, over like 10 or 15 years, then he would inevitably hit 1K again. I mean lets at least be intellectually honest, half this thread is angrily yelling about not retaining GS, then out of their very next breath is asking, "Do you think UA will offer me a GS challenge?" Frankly, that doesn't exactly sound like you have UA on the ropes :idea:

We have several of these type of threads every year on FT. They get tons of views, they blow up, people are tearing their clothes, gnashing their teeth, and then eventually, the thread drops off the first page of the forum, then it drops off the 2nd page of the forum and so on. This will blow over too. Either it was a mistake or it wasn't a mistake. If it was a mistake, people will forget it (while yelling that they won't forget it) and it will blow over. If it's not a mistake, people will still forget it and it will still blow over, but it will take longer. Either way, I'm pretty sure UA will keep flying airplanes.

The beat goes on...

Regards

Go to United.com and sign in. After you sign in, you should see a button labeled "View My United". Click that and you can see your status and a whole lot more. Hope that helps!

Correct about what? You said there were only 10 posters complaining and I was simply pointing out that those 10 included all FedEx pilots and two corporate travel programs with several hundred people each, and that if all corporate travel contracts are indeed out, that's undoubtedly thousands more. Those seem to be facts. I didn't say anything beyond that.

If your ultimate point is there isn't really anything the complainers can do about it and that many will still fly UA, then I agree. :)

So I guess it is not a glitch, as I asked my account to be reviewed and received an email with a challenge…

Not sure what that means though…

• Travel period: Travel must be completed within any 120-day period between January 1, 2024 - June 30, 2024. You are automatically enrolled for the challenge period of January 1, 2024 - April 29, 2024. After which the account will be considered nightly for qualification during the immediately preceding 120-day time frame. The last date to complete the challenge is June 30, 2024.

And for the desired FT precision, be sure to back out flights of less than 500 miles for the actual mileage . . .

Did you just call the GS line to request this?

I sent an email to the GS asking for a secondary review of my account, not a challenge.

I still don't get all the comparing DL vs UA in this thread. UA did NOT screw up nearly as bad as DL did. DL's changes basically affected everybody to some degree; more those with credit cards, yes. UA's changes, if they are to be believed, affect a subset of their smallest elite level. The largest revenue producers, yes. But we're talking hundreds, possibly a few thousand. DL affected tens of thousands or more. Plus the lack of media outlet pick up on this like the DL fiasco clearly shows how little impact this has vs what DL did. The idea that UA did this as a publicity stunt similar to DL so they could claw back some changes doesn't resonate (and I'm not suggesting you are saying this is why UA did this --- several others on this forum have).

Of course it was. But it's clearly going to have a positive impact on overcrowding at the UA Clubs with far fewer GS (again, as of this moment - depending how much UA claws back).

Hah. But why ask for PPs? Just ask for confirmed upgrades!

Then I don't understand why you want to spend any additional money with UA. What does an $18K challenge to earn GS for the rest of calendar year 2024 get you if you don't plan to fly them because they don't value your business? If you're truly becoming a free agent now is the time to do it. Getting GS to feel better about yourself for the rest of this year is extremely short-sighted since UA has burned the proverbial bridge in your book.

-RM

I could see logic in taking the status challenge in a scenario like this: last year pushed 99% of flying on UA to have, say, $60k pqp; got booted from GS anyway; expected flying for this will naturally wind up with $18k in Q1 and a smattering of trips on UA later in the year due to lack of alternatives, but still with about $40k of discretionary flying to send elsewhere. In that case might as well take the now-undesired UA flying with a side of GS status for one last year, while still diversifying other flying away from UA due to their lack of loyalty reciprocation.

+1

I mean, this is the definition of a loyalty program marketing at work to chase status.....Consumers are working harder for airlines to get status, rather than airlines working harder to give consumers status.

They will look at spending over the preceding 120 days on a rolling basis, starting 1/1-4/29. What is the spending requirement?

also if you meet the amount by say February 15 would they reactivate GS then? Will be curious if anyone gets denied a challenge.

Still not sure I understand…

18,000$.

Current 1K. About $64k net last year - I called and asked for an account review on Friday, just got an email denying and saying we "encourage you to continue flying toward United Global Service status in the future."

Given the changes to qualification criteria this year and lack of any clarity on what the new requirements are, there is nothing to "continue to fly towards," so I'll just assume that 1K is the limit for me and I shouldn't make any special effort to fly United.

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