EWR-HNL nonstop not operating next summer (Summer 2024)?
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EWR-HNL nonstop not operating next summer (Summer 2024)?
Just received sched notification that my nonstop flight EWR-HNL-EWR now one stop via west coast ….redeployment 767 elsewhere? Still see IAD on the books for Saturdays at least (late Jun-early Jul) were my dates. Thoughts ? Thought that was a popular route..🤔
Last edited by drgreg; Oct 21, 2023 at 7:42 am Reason: Punctuation
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Too early to tell? The route is indeed quite popular, but more so during winter months. UA was struggling with this route this summer as well: https://simpleflying.com/united-airl...port-honolulu/
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EWR-HNL removed from mid-April
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231021-uans24ewrhnl
I can only figure it will be back for winter?
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231021-uans24ewrhnl
I can only figure it will be back for winter?
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Houston - Honolulu is going double daily next May also on a 777 high d.
https://twitter.com/ishriona/status/1715854263681699971?s=46&t=6VioPYBQMqRw4TaOW0vFRQ
https://twitter.com/ishriona/status/1715854263681699971?s=46&t=6VioPYBQMqRw4TaOW0vFRQ
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Houston - Honolulu is going double daily next May also on a 777 high d.
https://twitter.com/ishriona/status/...MqRw4TaOW0vFRQ
https://twitter.com/ishriona/status/...MqRw4TaOW0vFRQ
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Too early to tell? The route is indeed quite popular, but more so during winter months. UA was struggling with this route this summer as well: https://simpleflying.com/united-airl...port-honolulu/
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They definitely get higher fares up front, but since UA isn't planning on having many more widebodies in the fleet for next summer, I figure they want the plane for summer international travel season.
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Or - UA buys HA
1) Move HA's HNL-JFK to HNL-EWR (currently Airbus, but HA's got some Dreamliners coming).
2) Spin off interisland service to shake off that issue
3) Re-gain large HNL hub
4) ...and makes some idiot living on Honolulu Harbor really happy
1) Move HA's HNL-JFK to HNL-EWR (currently Airbus, but HA's got some Dreamliners coming).
2) Spin off interisland service to shake off that issue
3) Re-gain large HNL hub
4) ...and makes some idiot living on Honolulu Harbor really happy
Last edited by IAH-OIL-TRASH; Oct 21, 2023 at 7:44 pm
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Maybe just moving seats around. As someone stated IAH is going 2x about the exact time this stops. seems like the best guess.
People are paying a premium in the winter but summer people have alot more time and probably ARE willing to connect to save a penny. Ie i bet they get alot less people willing to pay a premium in the summer, so it goes. United is using data more than ever and can see exactly what makes money. People in the seats doesn't mean its making money if they are not willing to pay a significant premium to overfly so many United Hubs. Its about making money , not what has people in the seas
Also as a reference using great circle general routing. EWR-HNL is literally 1 mile shorter than EWR-ORD-HNL so you are literally overflying hubs. If they are not getting a significant premium people are willing to pay for a N/S they should cut the route. Also NYC/BOS-HNL has gotten quite crowded these days. There was a time when United was the only airline in Northeast-HNL now Delta and Hawaiian are all over it. They are probably not getting the premiums they used to get for the N/S in summer
People are paying a premium in the winter but summer people have alot more time and probably ARE willing to connect to save a penny. Ie i bet they get alot less people willing to pay a premium in the summer, so it goes. United is using data more than ever and can see exactly what makes money. People in the seats doesn't mean its making money if they are not willing to pay a significant premium to overfly so many United Hubs. Its about making money , not what has people in the seas
Also as a reference using great circle general routing. EWR-HNL is literally 1 mile shorter than EWR-ORD-HNL so you are literally overflying hubs. If they are not getting a significant premium people are willing to pay for a N/S they should cut the route. Also NYC/BOS-HNL has gotten quite crowded these days. There was a time when United was the only airline in Northeast-HNL now Delta and Hawaiian are all over it. They are probably not getting the premiums they used to get for the N/S in summer
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hoping this is just seasonal. i usually plan a LAX stopover westbound to see friends, but connecting on the way back to EWR generally involves walking through a connecting hub at a miserable hour. i'll deal with HA's abysmal CS to fly home N/S, or maybe give DL a shot.
IIRC, in order for the route to be flown by a 772, doesn't it have to be an ER variant? i thought the HD birds don't have the range westbound.
IIRC, in order for the route to be flown by a 772, doesn't it have to be an ER variant? i thought the HD birds don't have the range westbound.
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EWR-HNL Nonstop removed from schedule
Effective 14-April-24, UA 363 EWR-HNL, and 362 HNL-EWR are removed from the schedule. Any idea what's going on there? If I'm correct, the only remaining Polaris/PE plane to HNL is the ORD routing,.