IAH-OIL-TRASH

OK - then Polaris=Hawaii=Domestic. So, Polaris breakfast is 1) egg bites w/ sausage or 2) French toast (one piece of bread, quartered), a little aluminum cup of sugar/butter, maple flavor, both with croissant, yogurt, a couple of pieces of fruit, then yes, Hawaii is same as Polaris and domestic F. I've had the exact same breakfasts on two domestic and two long-haul Hawaii flights in last 3 weeks. It appears Polaris, domestic F, and long-haul Hawaii are getting the exact same breakfasts.

Think of it this way - Polaris has been getting domestic F meals during the pandemic. You surely don't think Hawaii has been upgraded to Polaris meals, do you? Hawaii meals have stayed the same - Polaris meals have suffered the downgrade. As service recovers, hopefully Polaris meals will get back to what they were, as will p.s.

HNLbasedFlyer

The Hawaii meals are in my opinion are about as bad as you can get. They'd be better off not bothering with a meal just as Southwest does on the Hawaii flights it is so bad. I plan appropriately either by bringing something with me onto the plane or eat before the flight.

evol

Don't you feel that Hawai‘i routes (ex-California) have had service enhanced as compared to pre-covid? The meals seem to be route specific and better than domestic FC, to me. I don't really remember that level of catering between HNL-LAX/SFO in F.

Also UA has a competitor in HA ex California, running mostly A330 with their (crappy/small cabin) lie-flats vs a good chance of 737/753 on UA.

This is exactly in line with my experience, especially ex-West Coast.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

I fly between Hawaii and West Coast monthly. The only enhancement since pre-Covid was the use of Polaris-equipped planes (mainly due to grounding of PW 772s and availability of the Polaris a/c). That's going away as the 772s come back and Polaris planes moved back to int'l. After a year of enjoying Polaris seats, I was on 737s last two times between West Coast and HNL. Still remains to be seen what happens with the long-haul HI a/c routes normally 777HD (DEN/IAH/ORD). The inflight food quality is definitely down since pre-covid and FAs prefer you take offered OJ or water PDB instead of asking what you want.

There are/were a couple of extra routes (EWR-OGG, ORD-KOA).

evol

thanks

IAH-OIL-TRASH

Hawaii food ex-West Coast has not been upgraded. If the food is the same between Hawaii and West Coast and Premium Transcon, it's because the Premium Transcon food has been downgraded. I've only been flying monthly between the west Coast and Hawaii since 2012. I think I've observed what's been paced in front of me.

HNLbasedFlyer

I’m also monthly or more and if the service is enhanced they missed the memo on my flights or it was a sorry state of an enhancement. My next enhancement is June 7.

Plane-is-home

worst part of these 737 is the lack of internet. Followed by the worn out seats. I only take those on day flights to mainland

HNLbasedFlyer

Of course no change in the Hawaii menus - some of the worst in the system.

MatthewLAX

On this we certainly agree. I find the catering ex-HNL used to be my favorite, but that chicken katsu is terrible and the tofu option even worse.

fumje

Can't agree. Have you tried the past year's non-Hawaii offering? The Hawaii catering is better even than some Polaris catering.



The ragu was blah, monotonous, and way too light, so from me good riddance. Without having eaten beforehand, it was totally inadequate as a meal. I'd be amazed if it was more than 500 kcal.

On the latter point though — fully agreed. I don't mind the impossible stuff, but a true veg options would be better.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

The Hawaii food is double-catered from mainland. Do you really think someone in catering or UA on Mainland is saying "Hey, let's make Hawaii meals special"? The meals are EXACTLY the same as mainland domestic F of similar length. I've had the exact same breakfast HNL-SFO, IAH-EWR, EWR-HNL, and SFO-IAH in last month. The West Coast to Hawaii lunches/dinners are the same as domestic lunches and dinners. There is zero difference. The only thing different is the long-haul Hawaii gets another meal due to length.

I'm pretty sure I've been exposed to far more Hawaii meals than most. 1) They are not better than CONUS meals. 2) If you think Hawaii food is like Polaris food, that speaks to the deterioration of Polaris food, not to an improvement in Hawaii food.

fumje

Actually someone in corporate about a year ago was saying, "Hey, let's make Hawaii meals special." The meals are not the same as mainland F. Do you see green salads in mainland catering? Do you see beef in mainland catering?

Of course all of this is sad commentary on how low catering standards have fallen.

Unitedloyalflyer

also, no chicken katsu in mainland catering, no eggs, sausage, and rice in domestic F catering

To say Hawaii meals are regular domestic F meals is saying something highly inaccurate

SFO 1K

I didn't fly West Coast to Hawaii, I flew from DEN, but the meals in my post here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34291751-post761.html are NOT what is offered on CONUS premium cabin at all. I contend what I received was better than CONUS meals have been for the past two years. I also do not contend they are Polaris meals. So I'm with you on some of this and not with you on other points.