Status of UA's SFO-PVG operations, back to non-stop -- 30 Jan 2023
Jan 21, 2022, 5:59 pm
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Jan 21, 2022, 6:04 pm
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I think that UA has this fare available now but it will not last long.
XN to IN was not easy because some of Polaris seats were blocked for PVG-SFO. My friend barely got it after she talked to a gate agent. The computer generated upgrade standby list put her the dead last.
XN to IN was not easy because some of Polaris seats were blocked for PVG-SFO. My friend barely got it after she talked to a gate agent. The computer generated upgrade standby list put her the dead last.
Jan 21, 2022, 6:25 pm
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XN to PN is much easier than XN to IN.
Jan 24, 2022, 5:41 am
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In general, PVG-USA is lot less than SFO-PVG except in August when millions students come to USA for education. I paid $3,800 M fare for PVG-SFO-BOS last August.
New rule by Chinese Embassy is that you MUST stay at SFO for 7 days to do multiple testing before they issue a green code which is necessary to board UA 857.
A friend just bought $10,000 PE fare March 20 SFO-PVG. UA wanted $18,000 for J. She hesitated for few min, then $18,000 J fare was gone.
Oh well. I guess UA makes lot of money on China routes.
New rule by Chinese Embassy is that you MUST stay at SFO for 7 days to do multiple testing before they issue a green code which is necessary to board UA 857.
A friend just bought $10,000 PE fare March 20 SFO-PVG. UA wanted $18,000 for J. She hesitated for few min, then $18,000 J fare was gone.
Oh well. I guess UA makes lot of money on China routes.
Jan 24, 2022, 5:46 am
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Are there any other flights between UA and China flying at this time? My wife's father has been in China for nearly 9 months, and I think the plan was for him to fly back to the U.S. in March. It feels like it will be much harder, and while I don't mind overpaying in RDM for a Polaris seat back, I have no interest in helping sponsor another $10k+ ticket, paid in cash...
Jan 24, 2022, 5:55 am
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OP bought a XN ticket (35K miles + taxes) and used PlusPoints for upgrade. There are plenty of PVG-USA XN tickets available between March 27 and June 30. This is really a good use of miles by premier members (5 cents per miles).
Jan 24, 2022, 7:49 am
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You don't have to fly direct flights out of China. HKG, NRT and ICN are some of the transit choices out of China. Cathay one way biz class PVG-HKG-BOS was selling at around 2K USD last month. You can still find these prices for March, April and May. I even saw JAL fares around 1800 USD PVG-NRT-BOS one way in biz.
The issue is flying to China from the US. China embassy/consulates won’t issue the green code for transit passengers.
Jan 24, 2022, 1:14 pm
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Yep, going to China has to be direct flight if there is one available from your country of residency. My trip last year, I bought a one way from US to China, then bought a round trip ticket from China back to the US. it was really cheap fare coming out of China. Now I am trying to use the 2nd half of that ticket (AA) to go to China again for another few months of work. Already bought my one way ticket out of China on Cathay.
Jan 24, 2022, 4:10 pm
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Of course, if we add PP and clear XN to PN, then we are talking about $5,500-$10,000 biz class fare.
That's more than 15 cents per mile which I absolutely love
Feb 6, 2022, 5:56 pm
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Are the 'suspended' UA flights to China still flying?
I am trying to figure out what the recent/current Chinese suspensions actually mean for UA, i.e. what exactly is suspended; the flight itself, or 'only' the carrying of pax USA ---> China?
From looking at FlightAware, it seems as if UA857 (SFO-[ICN]-PVG) doesn't 'exist', but the return UA858 (PVG-[ICN]-SFO) does. From this I am presuming that the suspension is 'only' for the carrying of pax, and the flight is cargo & crew only going to China, and a regular flight with pax, flying as UA858 coming back to the USA.
Does this sound about right?
From looking at FlightAware, it seems as if UA857 (SFO-[ICN]-PVG) doesn't 'exist', but the return UA858 (PVG-[ICN]-SFO) does. From this I am presuming that the suspension is 'only' for the carrying of pax, and the flight is cargo & crew only going to China, and a regular flight with pax, flying as UA858 coming back to the USA.
Does this sound about right?
Feb 6, 2022, 6:33 pm
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I am trying to figure out what the recent/current Chinese suspensions actually mean for UA, i.e. what exactly is suspended; the flight itself, or 'only' the carrying of pax USA ---> China?
From looking at FlightAware, it seems as if UA857 (SFO-[ICN]-PVG) doesn't 'exist', but the return UA858 (PVG-[ICN]-SFO) does. From this I am presuming that the suspension is 'only' for the carrying of pax, and the flight is cargo & crew only going to China, and a regular flight with pax, flying as UA858 coming back to the USA.
Does this sound about right?
From looking at FlightAware, it seems as if UA857 (SFO-[ICN]-PVG) doesn't 'exist', but the return UA858 (PVG-[ICN]-SFO) does. From this I am presuming that the suspension is 'only' for the carrying of pax, and the flight is cargo & crew only going to China, and a regular flight with pax, flying as UA858 coming back to the USA.
Does this sound about right?
Feb 6, 2022, 8:31 pm
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If you look at FlightAware UA857, SFO ---> PVG, there's no flights listed in a while.
But if you look at FlightAware US858, PVG ---> SFO, they're flying regularly, at the 'usual' schedule.
Feb 6, 2022, 8:41 pm
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Cargo only would be a 28xx / 27xx flight and labeled as such on unitedcargo.com
conflicting info on when UA857 is scheduled to resume unitedcargo has13 Feb 2022
EF has 12 Feb but availability is zeroed until mid-march
conflicting info on when UA857 is scheduled to resume unitedcargo has13 Feb 2022
EF has 12 Feb but availability is zeroed until mid-march
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Feb 6, 2022 at 8:51 pm
Feb 6, 2022, 9:02 pm
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Well, it appears UA is flying SFO-[ICN]-PVG without passengers & with or without cargo (inconclusive, IMO), and flying back as UA858 PVG-[ICN]-SFO with passengers and cargo.
A suspension under these rules from China isn't a suspension of the airplane's flight itself, but merely a suspension of that aircraft carrying passengers.
A click on WHERE'S THIS AIRCRAFT COMING FROM yields an error message:
A suspension under these rules from China isn't a suspension of the airplane's flight itself, but merely a suspension of that aircraft carrying passengers.
A click on WHERE'S THIS AIRCRAFT COMING FROM yields an error message: