United Removes *A Partner Award Chart (appears initial 10% bump starting 1 July 2020)
#61
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I think it's more a land grab while the sky is falling and everyone is focussed elsewhere. I suspect that they will be selling huge amounts of miles to Chase and soon we will see 100K+ signup bonuses on the Explorer cards.
#62
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Domestic ANA Flights went from 5K to 8.5K.
Used to be a nice sweet spot! Should've rescheduled instead of cancelled my flights.
edit: As MatthewLAX rightly pointed out, I was searching within the next 30 days of today. If its far out in the future, its still 5K.
Used to be a nice sweet spot! Should've rescheduled instead of cancelled my flights.
edit: As MatthewLAX rightly pointed out, I was searching within the next 30 days of today. If its far out in the future, its still 5K.
Last edited by Yunnnn; Apr 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm
#63
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And as you said, partner awards to Europe (partner airline across the Atlantic) have gone up from 70k to 77k.
#64
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For what date? Within 30 days the cost goes up 3.5K regardless of award. But after 07/01, I would expect (I haven't checked) the price to be up 10% rounded to the nearest 500 miles, so up to 5.5K...
Last edited by MatthewLAX; Apr 29, 2020 at 3:30 pm
#65
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I guess I'm not as freaked out about this as most others are. 10% isn't a huge hit. I expected dynamic pricing, so it's all relative. Of course, who knows what the future holds.
#66
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At least AA has some great new deals with its dynamic AA awards.
#67
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I take your point, but I still like the certainty (for however long it lasts) that I can book standard J on a partner for X miles over the crap-shoot of dynamic pricing.
#68
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What the hell. Should have called last night to book what I wanted. Everything is more expensive today. Even the combo of UA long-haul with a short connection on a partner is no longer the UA price. Really sad how UA uses the the current global crisis to sneak in this devaluation. Really sad. Not impressed.
#69
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This is still the case for now over at AA. Dynamic pricing applies to AA metal only; award chart still holds for partner and partner+AA combination metal.
#70
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To be completely honest, I'm not at all surprised UA increased partner awards - I'm surprised they only increased them by 10%. I would have expected more. We know UA doesn't care much about engendering loyalty these days, and doing this in the middle of a pandemic should be no surprise at all.
Sadly, I had an NH F redemption booked using UA miles I had to cancel due to quarantine restrictions, so this will slow down my race towards a 0 account balance. It'll be very satisfying once I can forget I even have an MP account.
Remember that Chase's UR travel portal books via Expedia just like a revenue booking, so loyalty program points will be earned if they would be earned via Expedia (which is airlines but not most hotel chains, IIRC). This is a substantial increase to the return calculation and must be factored in.
Sadly, I had an NH F redemption booked using UA miles I had to cancel due to quarantine restrictions, so this will slow down my race towards a 0 account balance. It'll be very satisfying once I can forget I even have an MP account.
Remember that Chase's UR travel portal books via Expedia just like a revenue booking, so loyalty program points will be earned if they would be earned via Expedia (which is airlines but not most hotel chains, IIRC). This is a substantial increase to the return calculation and must be factored in.
Last edited by gengar; Apr 29, 2020 at 5:57 pm
#71
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Previously if you booked a partner say SFO-FRA-JNB it priced that as a one way - 80K, I can find examples where its now pricing similar awards end on end, meaning its about 140K each way for a "saver" award. I don't know if that's a glitch or not but not having any award chart to fall back on basically means this is a huge devaluation.
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Partner award from the US to Europe using AA miles: 57.5k miles
Partner award from the US to Europe using US miles: 77k miles
Yeah, I'm going to use my UA credit card instead of my AA credit card to collect miles.
Partner award from the US to Europe using US miles: 77k miles
Yeah, I'm going to use my UA credit card instead of my AA credit card to collect miles.
#73
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what irks me is the 'no warning' piece. Completely inconsistent with prior increases and ... still no Email from UA about this change. They way UA conducts business these days is just not what it used to be. Sad.
#74
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Regards
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#75
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They feel they can get away with it thanks the the virus. Instead of enticing passengers to get money, they’re alienating us to save money. It’ll cost them.