United removed my mobile boarding pass and ruined my trip
#226
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This reminds me to screenshot. I keep track of my iPhone battery level. I've actually had the BP go missing before on a couple airline apps as well. The last time was TAP last year and I had to go and tell them my boarding pass got erased at the gate after I changed seats.
#227
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The author really shouldn't put her full name, Avios number, and reservation number on the internet.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 21, 2020 at 3:02 pm Reason: merged consecutive posts by same member
#228
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When you landed and didn't see a boarding pass - heck, the issue could have been noticed while in the air. People may not like how the app is designed - but, it is what it is. Hopefully everyone is better educated - this was an easily avoidable situation and I feel blaming United doesn't make sense to me unless it makes one feel better. United is free to design the functionality how they see fit and we as consumers can choose to use or not use the app. I saw nothing in the response from UA they considered the issue a bug and it will continue to work that way in the future.
#229
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That would be a great feature. Of course, my experience with UA is that they don't have any proactive way to identify PNRs that are out of sync.
#230
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Although I don’t think this is some massive failing by UA, and I think it was an avoidable situation, I also think that a feature request not to remove an old boarding pass until / unless a new one is available for that itinerary makes sense.
#231
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When you landed and didn't see a boarding pass - heck, the issue could have been noticed while in the air. People may not like how the app is designed - but, it is what it is. Hopefully everyone is better educated - this was an easily avoidable situation and I feel blaming United doesn't make sense to me unless it makes one feel better. United is free to design the functionality how they see fit and we as consumers can choose to use or not use the app. I saw nothing in the response from UA they considered the issue a bug and it will continue to work that way in the future.
1.) Before writing this post, I did not know they had the ability to delete a boarding pass form my app, so why would I have thought to re-check what I knew was saved in my phone?
2.) If I do recheck it, and they can take it away at any moment, how often should I recheck that it is there? Every 10 minutes? Every 30 seconds? Every hour? Given that they can make it disappear inside the app, I could have checked as you suggested, and it could still be deleted by the time I reached security.
3.) I see how you could possibly say this is now an "easily avoidable" situation in the future, now that I and many others know they can delete the boarding pass. But how can you say it was easily avoidable for me when I did not know this was a possibility?
4.) Finally, the argument that it is wrong to point out a flaw in a service because nobody is forced to use said service is a pointless argument. Sure, the car spontaneously combusts 50% of the time, but nobody is *forcing* you to drive that particular make of car, Mr. HNL, so thus you should not complain about your exploded vehicle. What is the point of this argument?
Not trying to pick a fight, but this is a string of poor logic from start to finish. But yes, it does make me feel better to blame united.
#232
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Your logic is off here:
1.) Before writing this post, I did not know they had the ability to delete a boarding pass form my app, so why would I have thought to re-check what I knew was saved in my phone?
2.) If I do recheck it, and they can take it away at any moment, how often should I recheck that it is there? Every 10 minutes? Every 30 seconds? Every hour? Given that they can make it disappear inside the app, I could have checked as you suggested, and it could still be deleted by the time I reached security.
3.) I see how you could possibly say this is now an "easily avoidable" situation in the future, now that I and many others know they can delete the boarding pass. But how can you say it was easily avoidable for me when I did not know this was a possibility?
1.) Before writing this post, I did not know they had the ability to delete a boarding pass form my app, so why would I have thought to re-check what I knew was saved in my phone?
2.) If I do recheck it, and they can take it away at any moment, how often should I recheck that it is there? Every 10 minutes? Every 30 seconds? Every hour? Given that they can make it disappear inside the app, I could have checked as you suggested, and it could still be deleted by the time I reached security.
3.) I see how you could possibly say this is now an "easily avoidable" situation in the future, now that I and many others know they can delete the boarding pass. But how can you say it was easily avoidable for me when I did not know this was a possibility?
I'll fall on my sword as I've flown much more than you - therefore, I wouldn't get in a TSA line without even looking to see if my boarding pass was there. I'm also in tech, so I know things happen. I get it, not everyone knows.
We still don't know what would've happened if you made it past security - perhaps they had offloaded you and you couldn't get on the plane anyway - then we'd have an entirely different thread.
#233
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Please, just, stop. OP wasn’t offloaded. If OP had been offloaded, a new boarding pass would have been generated and we wouldn’t be having this conversation. This was not some UA plot to try to get somebody else onto the plane.
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#236
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One other small piece of advice:
Get. inside. security.
I personally would never be comfortable with "It was 20 minutes to boarding and only 10 minutes to get through security - I should have plenty of time." Too much that can happen, including a sudden slip that causes you to drop and brick your phone.
If I'm not inside security 45 minutes before boarding, I am VERY nervous. Unless I'm in some secondary, one-flight-a-day airport.
Get. inside. security.
I personally would never be comfortable with "It was 20 minutes to boarding and only 10 minutes to get through security - I should have plenty of time." Too much that can happen, including a sudden slip that causes you to drop and brick your phone.
If I'm not inside security 45 minutes before boarding, I am VERY nervous. Unless I'm in some secondary, one-flight-a-day airport.
Put another way, you only have yourself to blame if you depend on optimal circumstances and the situation is non-optimal, causing you to miss your flight.
#237
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As I read this, I’m sitting in an airport hotel, as traffic yesterday was much worse than I anticipated, making it clear that I wasn’t going to be able to make it onto my flight. Touché.. perhaps this is karma.
#238
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Hopefully everyone is better educated - this was an easily avoidable situation and I feel blaming United doesn't make sense to me unless it makes one feel better. United is free to design the functionality how they see fit and we as consumers can choose to use or not use the app. I saw nothing in the response from UA they considered the issue a bug and it will continue to work that way in the future.
#239
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Your bag was crushed by a forklift? Sorry, there are loads of reports on FlyerTalk of people having their bags damaged, so you shouldn't have checked your bag if you didn't want it damaged. Easily avoidable. Don't see why you are blaming UA -- after all, they can run their baggage operation however they want. You can choose to take only carry-ons.
#240
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Your bag was crushed by a forklift? Sorry, there are loads of reports on FlyerTalk of people having their bags damaged, so you shouldn't have checked your bag if you didn't want it damaged. Easily avoidable. Don't see why you are blaming UA -- after all, they can run their baggage operation however they want. You can choose to take only carry-ons.
I suspect there is a reason UA doesn't want multiple boarding passes in your app to the same destination. One could be, you make the original flight and give the boarding pass to someone else for the later flight if the computer doesn't catch it in time.