Oct 11, 2019, 5:20 am
Last edit by: SPN Lifer
tl;dr - PQMs/PQDs/PQS going away, replaced with PQPs. $1 = 1 PQP. See chart below for thresholds:
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New Status Measures
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): Basically the same as PQD. Everything that was a PQD continues to count, plus:
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): Same as BIS segments (no class of service bonus) except Basic Economy and award tickets don't count.
PQP Earning on Partners
You can now earn PQP on non-016 tickets when flying eligible partners.
"Preferred" Partners (mostly JV partners): 1/5 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on AC AD AV CA CM EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN.
Others: 1/6 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on other airlines with MP earnings available.
Note: Because all partners earn RDM by distance when not on an 016-ticket, this effectively awards PQP by distance, from 40% in many JV First and Business cabins to 5% in things like LX K.
Preferred partners:
Bulk Tickets
Per UA Insider in this post: Yes you will now earn PQP on bulk tickets but not necessarily for the cash value since the price of the ticket is opaque. Bulk tickets will be equal to the award miles you earn for the ticket (excluding Premier bonus miles, if any) divided by 5.
Foreign Addresses
The PQD waiver for foreign MP addresses will no longer apply beginning in 2020.
Credit Card Holders
The PQD waivers and PQM earnings from all Chase cards are ending. Instead, Chase cards allow you to earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 of eligible spend, but only up to the following limits:
1,000 PQP / $24,000: MP Explorer, MP Club, MP Awards, and MP cards, plus their business equivalents (bonus PQP do not count for 1K)
3,000 PQP / $72,000: MP Select and MP Platinum cards
10,000 PQP / $240,000: Presidential Plus and PP Business cards
Existing Flexible PQM (FPQM) on eligible cards will become FPQP at a 5:1 ratio on 01-Apr-20 and will only be applicable through Platinum status.
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New Status Measures
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): Basically the same as PQD. Everything that was a PQD continues to count, plus:
- Copay component of miles+copay upgrades
- Paid upgrades (TOD or "sticker-type")
- Travel on partner airlines on partner stock (awarded as a fraction of the distance, similar to DL)
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): Same as BIS segments (no class of service bonus) except Basic Economy and award tickets don't count.
PQP Earning on Partners
You can now earn PQP on non-016 tickets when flying eligible partners.
"Preferred" Partners (mostly JV partners): 1/5 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on AC AD AV CA CM EW LH LX NH NZ OS SN.
Others: 1/6 of the RDM earned, excluding status bonuses (but including fare class) on other airlines with MP earnings available.
Note: Because all partners earn RDM by distance when not on an 016-ticket, this effectively awards PQP by distance, from 40% in many JV First and Business cabins to 5% in things like LX K.
Preferred partners:
- Air Canada
- Air China
- Air New Zealand
- All Nippon Airways
- Austrian Airlines
- Avianca
- Azul Brazilian Airlines
- Brussels Airlines
- Copa Airlines
- Eurowings
- Lufthansa
- SWISS International Airlines
- Aegean Airlines
- Air Dolomiti
- Air India
- Asiana Airlines
- Croatia Airlines
- Edelweiss
- EgyptAir
- Ethiopian Airlines
- EVA Air
- Juneyao Air
- LOT Polish Airlines
- Olympic Air
- SAS
- Shenzhen Airlines
- Singapore Airlines
- South African Airways
- TAP Air Portugal
- Thai Airways International
- Turkish Airlines
Bulk Tickets
Per UA Insider in this post: Yes you will now earn PQP on bulk tickets but not necessarily for the cash value since the price of the ticket is opaque. Bulk tickets will be equal to the award miles you earn for the ticket (excluding Premier bonus miles, if any) divided by 5.
Foreign Addresses
The PQD waiver for foreign MP addresses will no longer apply beginning in 2020.
Credit Card Holders
The PQD waivers and PQM earnings from all Chase cards are ending. Instead, Chase cards allow you to earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 of eligible spend, but only up to the following limits:
1,000 PQP / $24,000: MP Explorer, MP Club, MP Awards, and MP cards, plus their business equivalents (bonus PQP do not count for 1K)
3,000 PQP / $72,000: MP Select and MP Platinum cards
10,000 PQP / $240,000: Presidential Plus and PP Business cards
Existing Flexible PQM (FPQM) on eligible cards will become FPQP at a 5:1 ratio on 01-Apr-20 and will only be applicable through Platinum status.
United is updating the way MileagePlus members qualify for Premier status in 2020 for the 2021 program year. We recognized that distance was not the best way for us to measure customer loyalty, which is why we are introducing a new qualification structure to better deliver Premier benefits to our most valued customers. In 2020, members will only need to account for two factors to earn status: number of flights taken (Premier Qualifying Flights) and value of tickets purchased (Premier Qualifying Points).
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): every flight, a takeoff and landing, will count as a PQF except Basic Economy and tickets booked using miles.
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): 1 PQP = 1 U.S. dollar spent. You will earn PQPs on the base fare of your ticket (no taxes and fees), Economy Plus and Preferred seat purchases, and now on paid upgrades, MileagePlus upgrade award co-pays and credit for Star Alliance partner flights not ticketed or operated by United.
Qualification requirements for 2020
Here’s how members will qualify for each Premier status level starting January 1, 2020 for status in the 2021 program year:
United Cardmembers who are eligible for a PQD waiver, PQM, or Flexible PQM (FPQM) based on annual card spend will be offered new ways to earn Premier qualifying points (PQP) based on annual card spend. The ability to earn a PQD waiver, PQM, or FPQM on these cards will end on December 31, 2019.
Learn more: https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...qualification/
Premier Qualifying Flights (PQF): every flight, a takeoff and landing, will count as a PQF except Basic Economy and tickets booked using miles.
Premier Qualifying Points (PQP): 1 PQP = 1 U.S. dollar spent. You will earn PQPs on the base fare of your ticket (no taxes and fees), Economy Plus and Preferred seat purchases, and now on paid upgrades, MileagePlus upgrade award co-pays and credit for Star Alliance partner flights not ticketed or operated by United.
Qualification requirements for 2020
Here’s how members will qualify for each Premier status level starting January 1, 2020 for status in the 2021 program year:
United Cardmembers who are eligible for a PQD waiver, PQM, or Flexible PQM (FPQM) based on annual card spend will be offered new ways to earn Premier qualifying points (PQP) based on annual card spend. The ability to earn a PQD waiver, PQM, or FPQM on these cards will end on December 31, 2019.
Learn more: https://mileageplusupdates.com/milea...qualification/
New Premier Qualification Requirements for 2020: Only Spend or Spend + Flight Sectors
Feb 7, 2020, 9:53 pm
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If you added your UAMP# to your reservation when booking, that reservation should show up in your UAMP acc
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Feb 8, 2020, 10:19 am
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Once I added my UAMP number to my NH booking I was able to request an upgrade with Plus Points and also MUA.
Now fingers crossed they go through!
Now fingers crossed they go through!
Feb 13, 2020, 1:37 pm
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Well for people who considered leaving MP and joining the AS FF program, AS is joining oW next year.
I don't know if that makes it more or less attractive. There's talk that the program can now be devalued aggressively like AA's program.
I don't know if that makes it more or less attractive. There's talk that the program can now be devalued aggressively like AA's program.
Feb 13, 2020, 1:47 pm
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I do agree that AS's program will likely be gutted, as they'll be expected to drop most of their non-alliance partners.
Feb 13, 2020, 1:56 pm
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On the whole, I would have preferred they remain independent.
Feb 13, 2020, 2:00 pm
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I would recommend a wait-and-see approach; if AS was the right choice for 2020, that probably hasn't changed, but people should reevaluate later this year for 2021. I'd give that same advice to anybody staying with MileagePlus or moving anywhere else, for that matter; the programs change rapidly enough that using one or another due to inertia can be severely suboptimal.
I do agree that AS's program will likely be gutted, as they'll be expected to drop most of their non-alliance partners.
AS doesn't have any partnerships like that -- none of the AS partners really compete directly with OW airlines.
Feb 13, 2020, 2:02 pm
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EK competes directly with QR and somewhat less directly with anyone who flies to the ME or Asia. SQ of course is CX's biggest competitor, and also competes with JL.
Feb 13, 2020, 2:07 pm
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There will be some pressure to drop EK; they might be able to keep HU and LY.
I hope I'm wrong: adding OneWorld to MileagePlan, without removing anything, would make it quite attractive (although they do still pass on some fuel surcharges
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Feb 13, 2020, 4:36 pm
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I forgot about QR; when I thought about Emirates competitors the first thing that came to mind was Etihad
Feb 13, 2020, 4:57 pm
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Neither the HKG nor SIN O/D market is sufficient to support an airline the size of CX or SQ (Singapore population is 5.6 million people, Hong Kong 7.3 million). Both carriers are heavily reliant on connecting traffic, for which they compete directly. It's no coincidence that HKG and SIN are arguably the two best airports in the world for an international transit.
Feb 13, 2020, 5:36 pm
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wouldn't they earn more PQPs flying AC for their TPAC?
Feb 13, 2020, 5:42 pm
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AC is not helping because AC also suspended YYZ/YVR to China flights.
OZ is not allowing PRC nationals to transit ICN without a visa.
LH/LX also suspended most China flights.
SQ is not practical because Singapore bans PRC nationals as well.
NH is possible but that requires 2 stops for many US cities.
CA has very limited flights like 3-4 days a week PEK-JFK/LAX
There aren't many options going to China these days.
OZ is not allowing PRC nationals to transit ICN without a visa.
LH/LX also suspended most China flights.
SQ is not practical because Singapore bans PRC nationals as well.
NH is possible but that requires 2 stops for many US cities.
CA has very limited flights like 3-4 days a week PEK-JFK/LAX
There aren't many options going to China these days.
Feb 13, 2020, 5:49 pm
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Except one doesnt need $24k. I'll do it at about USD7000 this year, and thats with 80%+ of my vacation flights upfront.
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Feb 13, 2020, 6:34 pm
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If done correctly, yes; not withstanding the current situation out of China, of course. Still, as most UA FF members are US-based, a very small % of folks would add an extra connection or more to gain extra PQP. I wouldn't, and I fly mostly for leisure purposes - 50K BIS under my belt in a month+ already.
Only in FT and other similar platforms. Outside of such space, very few people care about points, miles, and status.
Only in FT and other similar platforms. Outside of such space, very few people care about points, miles, and status.
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