AA NYC => United SFO
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2019
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AA NYC => United SFO
Hello!
I have been flying out of NYC for 15+ years, have moved to SF and will be flying out of SFO.
I've barely made executive platinum the past few years on AA and will be switching to UA. I have two AA credit cards (Barclays & Citi) which give me 30k EQM to hit the executive platinum threshold. Unfortunately I don't believe there are any UA cards that accrue elite points.
Any tips on the switch? I plan to do a status challenge in the spring. My guess is that I'll land up as Platinum on UA given I won't have the benefit of the cards.
I have been flying out of NYC for 15+ years, have moved to SF and will be flying out of SFO.
I've barely made executive platinum the past few years on AA and will be switching to UA. I have two AA credit cards (Barclays & Citi) which give me 30k EQM to hit the executive platinum threshold. Unfortunately I don't believe there are any UA cards that accrue elite points.
Any tips on the switch? I plan to do a status challenge in the spring. My guess is that I'll land up as Platinum on UA given I won't have the benefit of the cards.
#2
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Ua no longer has an elite card and I don’t know if they still sell elite miles as accelerator like before. 1k status lets you preboard right before group 1, else you’re group 1 with Gold (50k) / Plat. Most flights out of Sfo won’t have much for free upgrades because there are so many GS & 1k, many of whom also don’t get free upgrades.
As you’ve seen, both AA and UA are in nice terminals at Sfo!
As you’ve seen, both AA and UA are in nice terminals at Sfo!
#3
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,374
Welcome to the Bay Area.
If you are unmarried, you can try to find a spouse who is a 3 million miler on UA. There are plenty of burned out management consultants etc. in the city’s dating pool. Then you can obtain 1K status as your spouse’s companion.
If you are unmarried, you can try to find a spouse who is a 3 million miler on UA. There are plenty of burned out management consultants etc. in the city’s dating pool. Then you can obtain 1K status as your spouse’s companion.
#4
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
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Why stop at a 3MM - grab a 4MM and GS status!
#5
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If you can't swing the above, be prepared to dramatically drop your expectations regarding upgrades. Going from EXP on AA to Plat on UA (especially SFO-captive) will take away more or less all of any upgrades you were getting. United does at least fly everywhere from SFO.
#7
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Join Date: Sep 2019
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Sadly I'm married so no shortcuts to GS. The lack of an elite card is a bummer.
Upgrades are pretty solid on AA. IMHO the only one that really matters is the transcon 321T or international. Is there an equivalent to the mileage upgrade (15k) with a $75 copay to put you in the front of your group?
#8
Join Date: Jul 2015
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All over the place but 2 - 3 times per year NYC or MIA. Not enough to justify the connections to everywhere else.
Sadly I'm married so no shortcuts to GS. The lack of an elite card is a bummer.
Upgrades are pretty solid on AA. IMHO the only one that really matters is the transcon 321T or international. Is there an equivalent to the mileage upgrade (15k) with a $75 copay to put you in the front of your group?
Sadly I'm married so no shortcuts to GS. The lack of an elite card is a bummer.
Upgrades are pretty solid on AA. IMHO the only one that really matters is the transcon 321T or international. Is there an equivalent to the mileage upgrade (15k) with a $75 copay to put you in the front of your group?
Last edited by nomad420; Sep 3, 2019 at 12:14 pm
#9
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Programs: UA 1K/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Amb
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Welcome to FT!
You'll find that there's a few different quirks that are different from AA.
There are certain benefits that are similar between EXP and 1K - for example, pre-boarding, free food/drink in coach. At the same time, the upgrade system is different, since there are no more e-500 stickers at UA, which results in less upgrades since every elite member is on the upgrade list, as opposed EXP and everyone else who chooses to upgrade using stickers. You'll also find that the same day change is a lot more flexible on UA.
Upgrades can be done with Regional, Systemwide (requires W or higher fare for international flights outside of North and Central America), or combination of miles and co-pay. Unlike AA, the number of miles and co-pay will be based on your original purchased fare, as opposed to a flat amount. For most NA routes, co-pay is waived for elite members, except for certain Hawaii routes and premium transcontinental flights (EWR-LAX/SFO and SFO-BOS). Furthermore, for the SFO-EWR (not JFK) route, there is no complimentary upgrade, so everyone is requesting upgrade using some type of instrument. Also, UA takes your money and miles at the time of request, not when it's cleared.
The Chase UA Club Card is the closest thing to an elite credit card that comes with a United Club membership. While it does not accrue EQM, it does provide PQD waiver for Platinum and below if you spend $25,000 annually. No PQD waivers for 1K.
You'll find that there's a few different quirks that are different from AA.
There are certain benefits that are similar between EXP and 1K - for example, pre-boarding, free food/drink in coach. At the same time, the upgrade system is different, since there are no more e-500 stickers at UA, which results in less upgrades since every elite member is on the upgrade list, as opposed EXP and everyone else who chooses to upgrade using stickers. You'll also find that the same day change is a lot more flexible on UA.
Upgrades can be done with Regional, Systemwide (requires W or higher fare for international flights outside of North and Central America), or combination of miles and co-pay. Unlike AA, the number of miles and co-pay will be based on your original purchased fare, as opposed to a flat amount. For most NA routes, co-pay is waived for elite members, except for certain Hawaii routes and premium transcontinental flights (EWR-LAX/SFO and SFO-BOS). Furthermore, for the SFO-EWR (not JFK) route, there is no complimentary upgrade, so everyone is requesting upgrade using some type of instrument. Also, UA takes your money and miles at the time of request, not when it's cleared.
The Chase UA Club Card is the closest thing to an elite credit card that comes with a United Club membership. While it does not accrue EQM, it does provide PQD waiver for Platinum and below if you spend $25,000 annually. No PQD waivers for 1K.
#10
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Yes, but it is based on your fare class (on p.s.) so it is almost always prohibitively expensive unless someone else is buying you full-fare and/or refundable Economy. For the p.s. routes (SFO-EWR) they aren't likely to clear anyway.