Boozing in the mornin’
Jul 21, 2019, 4:06 am
#17
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The old rule of "It's 5 o'clock somewhere" is especially true on planes that pass through different time zones.
Also, interesting at EWR, the UA clubs in Terminal A are in a Essex County while the UA clubs / Polaris Lounge in Terminal C are in Union County, causing these lounges to have different laws governing their ability to serve.
Also, interesting at EWR, the UA clubs in Terminal A are in a Essex County while the UA clubs / Polaris Lounge in Terminal C are in Union County, causing these lounges to have different laws governing their ability to serve.
Jul 21, 2019, 5:32 am
#18
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Are you sure that is still current information?
I thought with Bill 2419 (which I believe passed), they modified how and when they can serve alcohol at EWR and made it uniform throughout the airport.
They now serve alcohol early on Sunday at the UC and Polaris lounge.....I know this for sure!
Jul 21, 2019, 5:37 am
#19
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Are you sure that is still current information?
I thought with Bill 2419 (which I believe passed), they modified how and when they can serve alcohol at EWR and made it uniform throughout the airport.
They now serve alcohol early on Sunday at the UC and Polaris lounge.....I know this for sure!
Are you sure that is still current information?
I thought with Bill 2419 (which I believe passed), they modified how and when they can serve alcohol at EWR and made it uniform throughout the airport.
They now serve alcohol early on Sunday at the UC and Polaris lounge.....I know this for sure!
This bill allows bars and restaurants operating within an international airport to sell alcoholic beverages between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. In general, a municipality may establish by ordinance the hours during which alcoholic beverages may be sold for consumption on the premises. This bill establishes extended hours of sale for retail licensees operating an establishment located within an international airport.
Jul 21, 2019, 5:41 am
#20
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This bill allows bars and restaurants operating within an international airport to sell alcoholic beverages between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. In general, a municipality may establish by ordinance the hours during which alcoholic beverages may be sold for consumption on the premises. This bill establishes extended hours of sale for retail licensees operating an establishment located within an international airport.
Interestingly, assemblyman Tim Eustace had originally proposed 6am, so not sure why the Bill states 8am. Wonder what they ACTUALLY passed, in the end.
I really need to hit the Polaris lounge at EWR at 7am and see if I can get a Bloody Mary!
Jul 21, 2019, 5:44 am
#21
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The bill is here.
Interestingly, assemblyman Tim Eustace had originally proposed 6am, so not sure why the Bill states 8am. Wonder what they ACTUALLY passed, in the end.
I really need to hit the Polaris lounge at EWR at 7am and see if I can get a Bloody Mary!
Interestingly, assemblyman Tim Eustace had originally proposed 6am, so not sure why the Bill states 8am. Wonder what they ACTUALLY passed, in the end.
I really need to hit the Polaris lounge at EWR at 7am and see if I can get a Bloody Mary!
Jul 21, 2019, 6:01 am
#22
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assuming you're in first:
ac: "no no no i'll explain to you the law, we have laws, blablabla". i don't think ac ever does pdb beyond water on domestic flights.
ua: ask for a pre departure beverage (if they don't offer) and they'll make you anything.
then both airlines have booze during service.
i normally get double vodka soda in the am for my PDB and they don't judge. i asked for this on ac in the morning once (before i knew their dumb rule) and i was definitely judged. flying sucks and that's one thing to help me get thru 1k amounts of flying, 3/5 of which is in Y. if you have never had a drink in the am have you ever really traveled?
the bars at the united clubs in den open very early, i had drinks around 0800, which is normal in most lounges around the world.
can confirm that's the case in texas due to tabc. don't think that is in colorado.
ac: "no no no i'll explain to you the law, we have laws, blablabla". i don't think ac ever does pdb beyond water on domestic flights.
ua: ask for a pre departure beverage (if they don't offer) and they'll make you anything.
then both airlines have booze during service.
i normally get double vodka soda in the am for my PDB and they don't judge. i asked for this on ac in the morning once (before i knew their dumb rule) and i was definitely judged. flying sucks and that's one thing to help me get thru 1k amounts of flying, 3/5 of which is in Y. if you have never had a drink in the am have you ever really traveled?
the bars at the united clubs in den open very early, i had drinks around 0800, which is normal in most lounges around the world.
can confirm that's the case in texas due to tabc. don't think that is in colorado.
EDIT: this was the delta Crown Room in March of this year.
Jul 21, 2019, 6:34 am
#23
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The old rule of "It's 5 o'clock somewhere" is especially true on planes that pass through different time zones.
Also, interesting at EWR, the UA clubs in Terminal A are in a Essex County while the UA clubs / Polaris Lounge in Terminal C are in Union County, causing these lounges to have different laws governing their ability to serve.
Also, interesting at EWR, the UA clubs in Terminal A are in a Essex County while the UA clubs / Polaris Lounge in Terminal C are in Union County, causing these lounges to have different laws governing their ability to serve.
One can validate by looking at the taxi queue for each terminal. Terminal A are white cabs for Elizabeth vs. Terminal C which have yellow cabs for Newark. Still a great factoid!
Reference - https://libguides.rutgers.edu/ld.php...nt_id=37356503
On the topic of laws - EWR Airport is a cash cow on taxes, & fees for Port Authority and counties so couldn't imagine politicians would do anything to restrict passenger volumes.
Jul 21, 2019, 7:29 am
#25
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NO WAY! i didn't know TABC was that strict, thought only on lawrds day.
Jul 21, 2019, 7:42 am
#26
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I maintain that UA is allowed per TABC to serve alcohol before noon on Sundays (and before 7 any other day) at their Texas-based clubs under either of two exceptions:
1. At any time for all ‘free’ options as TABC rules only regulate sales
2. After 10am on Sundays in conjunction with food under the “brunch” exceptions, which allows the sale
of alcohol after 10 on Sunday if the establishment is providing food service.
United chooses not to, however, because either the lawyers or the accountants (or both) suggested it.
1. At any time for all ‘free’ options as TABC rules only regulate sales
2. After 10am on Sundays in conjunction with food under the “brunch” exceptions, which allows the sale
of alcohol after 10 on Sunday if the establishment is providing food service.
United chooses not to, however, because either the lawyers or the accountants (or both) suggested it.
Jul 21, 2019, 1:43 pm
#27
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I had to beg for a diet coke at 7 AM. They could give out free stuff but anything like a premium drink of course costs extra. I guess they dont want to mess with it.
Jul 21, 2019, 3:07 pm
#28
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I believe it is 6am as in my recent visit off a 530am red eye, the server had to wait until 6am to put in my “real” drink order.
Jul 21, 2019, 3:38 pm
#30
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Are you sure that is still current information?
I thought with Bill 2419 (which I believe passed), they modified how and when they can serve alcohol at EWR and made it uniform throughout the airport.
They now serve alcohol early on Sunday at the UC and Polaris lounge.....I know this for sure!
Are you sure that is still current information?
I thought with Bill 2419 (which I believe passed), they modified how and when they can serve alcohol at EWR and made it uniform throughout the airport.
They now serve alcohol early on Sunday at the UC and Polaris lounge.....I know this for sure!
I'm 0 for 2 on this one. :-(