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Old Jun 20, 2019, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by SS255
At minimum, I wish that UA would only run the CR2's on flights under 500 miles, to small markets only. I fly one route that's 631 miles, and it is BRUTAL even when we arrive early.
Methinks you have a pretty first-world definition of "brutal."
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian
Methinks you have a pretty first-world definition of "brutal."
No - I think the term should be augmented to include "extremely painful and". My worst RJ145 is DEN-HSV which clocks in at 2h37m and 1048 miles.

Of course there's the older thread: Longest flights in RJ

Some doozys there.

Back on thread topic, I look forward to more E175s entering service. It would be great if they displaced RJ145s but that's giving Kirby too much credit.

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Old Jun 20, 2019, 2:32 pm
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I’ve flown the A220, and I was substantially underwhelmed. I didn’t understand the hype. And the A321XLR sounds awful — who wants to fly 5000 miles on a narrowbody?

The more E-175s in the fleet, the better, as far as I’m concerned, especially as long as they remain limited to 76 seats by the pilot contract. It’s one of the easier upgrades in the fleet.
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 3:46 pm
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Anybody have stats on which UA hubs have the most E175 flights now?

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Old Jun 20, 2019, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
I’ve flown the A220, and I was substantially underwhelmed. I didn’t understand the hype. And the A321XLR sounds awful — who wants to fly 5000 miles on a narrowbody?

The more E-175s in the fleet, the better, as far as I’m concerned, especially as long as they remain limited to 76 seats by the pilot contract. It’s one of the easier upgrades in the fleet.
I will connect through a hub before I fly more than 3000 miles nonstop on a narrow body.

I like the 175 for upgrades, but the smaller aircraft seem to be the first to be cancelled.
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by BF263533
I will connect through a hub before I fly more than 3000 miles nonstop on a narrow body.
Eh...I flew EWR-OSL when that route was running on a 752. Almost 3700 miles according to GCM, and I had zero issue with it at all. Not worth burning the extra time connecting somewhere else in Europe to fly an SK narrowbody to OSL.

That being said, without knowing the seat configuration, I would probably love to avoid the MAX 10 and whatever TATL routes UA decides it works on, whenever that happens.
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
And the A321XLR sounds awful — who wants to fly 5000 miles on a narrowbody?

If it’s in business class... I would.

If it’s in economy plus... I would if the alternative is spending even more time in two different economy class seats and especially if they were on a 9-across 787s or a 10-across 777 or involved a 30” pitch LH narrowbody seat.

If it’s in regular economy... I wouldn’t. But I also wouldn’t go on a widebody unless I at least get an E+ seat.
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Old Jun 20, 2019, 8:25 pm
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If it’s in business class... I would.

If it’s in economy plus... I would if the alternative is spending even more time in two different economy class seats and especially if they were on a 9-across 787s or a 10-across 777 or involved a 30” pitch LH narrowbody seat.

If it’s in regular economy... I wouldn’t. But I also wouldn’t go on a widebody unless I at least get an E+ seat.
+1. The 757 TATL is relatively attractive compared to 3-4-3 772 and even 3-3-3 78x.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 8:31 am
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Anything is better...

Originally Posted by mahasamatman
And the CRJ torture tubes keep flying...
100% agree! I would take any improvement over the 145s and CR2s!
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy
+1. The 757 TATL is relatively attractive compared to 3-4-3 772 and even 3-3-3 78x.
the 757 is a relatively comfortable aircraft, I don't get the whining about it.

Now that i don't much about earning status, I'd much rather take a nonstop than a connection that's going to cost me 2-3+ hours, especially when the euro carriers are offering 30" of legroom and rock hard seats, even in what passes for "business"
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I don't like CR2's either, but again, if its a matter of turning a 1.5 hour trip into a 3.5 hour affair, who the heck wants to do that? (and even moreso with a 2 year old!)
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy
+1. The 757 TATL is relatively attractive compared to 3-4-3 772 and even 3-3-3 78x.
+1. And I would must rather fly on an Airbus A321neoXLR to Europe than fly on a 757 TATL. Wider seats, and quieter plane. Would I rather be on an A380 or a A350, or an A330 or B763. Yes. Would I perfer to be on one of UA's 777s at 10x in Y. NO way, no how. Same with the 787.

Would I prefer to be on a widebody in J. Yes. But in Coach, not so much given some of the horrible configurations some airlines are using on Boeing equipment.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by spin88
+1. And I would must rather fly on an Airbus A321neoXLR to Europe than fly on a 757 TATL. Wider seats, and quieter plane.
Though substantially slower than a 757, which itself is noticeably slower than a 777, 787 or A330.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by EWR764
Though substantially slower than a 757, which itself is noticeably slower than a 777, 787 or A330.
Not a bad thing on the eastbound TATL red-eyes. Will be noticeable on the return though.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by EWR764
Though substantially slower than a 757, which itself is noticeably slower than a 777, 787 or A330.
What's the extra flight time on, say, a 4,000 mile segment? IIRC, the 757 adds about 10 minutes on a 747 from London to New York.
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Old Jun 21, 2019, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by lhrsfo
What's the extra flight time on, say, a 4,000 mile segment? IIRC, the 757 adds about 10 minutes on a 747 from London to New York.
Head-to-head, say LHR-IAD where there is a 757 and 747 on the same route, the BA 747 is usually about 7:10 enroute, plus or minus, while the UA 757 flight will clock in around 7:40. UA's 787 and 777 flights LHR-IAD are in the 7:10 range, too.

Obviously, enroute time is subject to a host of factors, but there's little doubt the A321 will have the longest block times (on the same segment) of any aircraft in widespread TATL service.
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