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Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 35798740)
The chances of not clearing approach zero, I get that... UA 869 SFO-HKG 12/7. 50 Polaris seats, only 23 booked, and I've seen nothing change in the waitlist in the past 30 hours. Sitting at #4 & 5. Only reason it matters is that there are 3 sets left of center seats parallel, best for couple traveling together. Just seems odd they don't allocate upgrades for Plat yet.
There are two flights daily SFO-HKG, both lightly loaded. The later flight does have one allocated upgrade (maybe the only GS between the two flights?). Similar situation on day earlier flight. One Polaris upgrade allocated, 50 total seats, 37 booked. Nothing to see here, move along... |
Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 35798740)
The chances of not clearing approach zero, I get that... UA 869 SFO-HKG 12/7. 50 Polaris seats, only 23 booked, and I've seen nothing change in the waitlist in the past 30 hours....
As far as I could tell, there were only net two buyups and/or new bookings in that week. Seems like not a whole lot of last-minute bookings for the flight. |
I am trying to better understand the upgrade process. How does the below happen where there is a difference between the listed amount of booked seats and booking space in the Polaris cabin?
First snip below is from the booking availability (one way, and just the specific segment I am watching) and second snip is from the Flight Upgrade Status on the website. Obviously this is for the same flight and departure is currently around 48 hours out. Appreciate any input or clarification other can provide. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a6fb095b1c.png https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6ec2839944.png |
There are 7 Polaris seats available to fill and UA (at this point) is willing to sell 7 Polaris fares or 6 Polaris fares and one PremiumPlus fare (which they are overbooking). A seat map may actually show more than 7 open seats if they've been overselling PP prior to your fare table snapshot.
If UA sells no more tickets or buyups, there should available for upgrades a minimum of 7 Polaris seats plus Polaris seats put aside for PP oversell (if any) . Maybe crew rest accounts for extra seats and 42 is actually the number of passenger-occupiable seats? |
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 35798889)
There are 7 Polaris seats available to fill and UA (at this point) is willing to sell 7 Polaris fares or 6 Polaris fares and one PremiumPlus fare (which they are overbooking). A seat map may actually show more than 7 open seats if they've been overselling PP prior to your fare table snapshot.
If UA sells no more tickets or buyups, there should available for upgrades a minimum of 7 Polaris seats plus Polaris seats put aside for PP oversell (if any) . Maybe crew rest accounts for extra seats and 42 is actually the number of passenger-occupiable seats? I appreciate the information. |
Originally Posted by PHXonUA
(Post 35799152)
That explains much, thank you! There are many more seats showing available on the seat map that the screen shot shows.
I appreciate the information. An open seat map provides a lot of choices for seat selection, but most inventory, the more accurate read, have been spoken for on this particular flight. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 35799338)
I would not rely on seat map as the sole indicator. Bookings from third party, for example, will not have seats selected by default.
An open seat map provides a lot of choices for seat selection, but most inventory, the more accurate read, have been spoken for on this particular flight. Good luck. Another data point (as if it was needed) that the seatmap isn't a true representation of what is actually available. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b49240c55b.png Flight Status Seat Map https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...47abba0688.png Change Seats Seat Map Thanks you again for the information shared. |
Turn off silent mode if you have upgrades pending
Our upgrades for 869, SFO-HKG (Polaris) came through last night, 11:06pm (about 36 hours prior to flight). Thankfully I spotted it and selected seats; had I waited until morning, remaining seats were scattered about the cabin. Instead, I was able to get the middle side-by-side seats with the movable divider.
Now I have to figure out if it's worth the hassle to see if I can have the PNR split and change one of us from miles-based upgrade (plus $450) to PlusPoints. I've only got 40, not enough for both of us. |
I keep seeing awards space show up and go away without anyone being upgraded. Top 2 on upgrade list are in one PNR while 3rd is on a single PNR. Top 3 are all GS.
One morning PN1 showed up. That afternoon it was back to PN0. The next morning it was PN2 and by mid afternoon it was PN0 again. I called and confirmed PN2 was showing up for them too when it was showing up for me. Nobody got upgraded and the amount of reserved seats didn’t change. Anyone know why this is going on? |
My wife and daughter are travelling in 15 days (Dec 22) to DFW-SFO-SYD (2005/863). Paid W fares with no status (will earn silver on this trip). On the international leg (only one we care about), J8 JN8 C8 D8 Z8 ZN8 P8 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R9 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 XN9 X9. Selected miles+copay waitlist at booking back in September. My experience travelling to SYD this time of year (as a former NRSA and later revenue passenger) is that there are almost always seats for every type of upgrade if there are no cancellations. The actual loads as of now show (8/0/27) available on the domestic leg and (24/10/71) on the TPAC. We really are hoping this will clear before there aren't any seat pairs left so they don't end up separated. Given the light loads in PP, I have to think this is a pretty good chance of making it by the T-24 sweep? Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by lewinr
(Post 35792714)
Hi All, first time using plus points (I let most of mine expire because there never seemed to be a good chance of using them.)
Flying UA 860 GRU-IAD on Dec 21 Boeing 767-400ER, 33 business class seats, 17 still open (according to seat map) My status is Platinum, I'm flying on a Premium Economy Q class fare. Expert mode fare classes show: J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W8 S3 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 Would appreciate your expert opinion of my chances... I have other options for a better flight in economy class, so if my chances are really low I might cancel this ticket and buy a different one. Thank you (Fare classes now showing as J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T2 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 |
Q fare is not premium economy. Premium economy is O, A, or R.
Either way, your chance is good. |
What are the chances for 1K upgrade with companion on 12/9 MCO-DEN flight at 8:30pm. My girlfriend and I are at #5 and #6 on upgrade list with 7 open seats….G type fare
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Originally Posted by mariol
(Post 35803308)
My wife and daughter are travelling in 15 days (Dec 22) to DFW-SFO-SYD (2005/863). Paid W fares with no status (will earn silver on this trip). On the international leg (only one we care about), J8 JN8 C8 D8 Z8 ZN8 P8 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R9 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 XN9 X9. Selected miles+copay waitlist at booking back in September. My experience travelling to SYD this time of year (as a former NRSA and later revenue passenger) is that there are almost always seats for every type of upgrade if there are no cancellations. The actual loads as of now show (8/0/27) available on the domestic leg and (24/10/71) on the TPAC. We really are hoping this will clear before there aren't any seat pairs left so they don't end up separated. Given the light loads in PP, I have to think this is a pretty good chance of making it by the T-24 sweep? Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by elmira56925
(Post 35803478)
What are the chances for 1K upgrade with companion on 12/9 MCO-DEN flight at 8:30pm. My girlfriend and I are at #5 and #6 on upgrade list with 7 open seats….G type fare
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