UA to French Polynesia???
#16
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CLE
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Agreed, this would be awesome. Great leisure route, but I hope (if true) they follow the TN timing of leaving mid-afternoon, arriving late-night - instead of the AF timing of leaving late-night, arriving at the crack of dawn.
I was lucky enough to visit there way back in the day, when AF+NW+CO was still a thing, and just recall that flight being an extra-special misery. Sort of the Europe red-eye problem on crack, where until they finished the meal service and turned off the cabin lights, you got maybe 3-4 hours of sleep before they woke you up for breakfast and started clattering around again. Combined with a puddle-jumper flight to Moorea or Bora Bora, and it made the first couple days of vacation a real jet-laggy drag.
Second time, took the TN flight LAX-PPT, got in at bedtime, got a good night's sleep, and had a great day!
But I suspect this is a pipe dream. With 1-or-less frequency per day, they'll want to maximize connecting traffic.
I was lucky enough to visit there way back in the day, when AF+NW+CO was still a thing, and just recall that flight being an extra-special misery. Sort of the Europe red-eye problem on crack, where until they finished the meal service and turned off the cabin lights, you got maybe 3-4 hours of sleep before they woke you up for breakfast and started clattering around again. Combined with a puddle-jumper flight to Moorea or Bora Bora, and it made the first couple days of vacation a real jet-laggy drag.
Second time, took the TN flight LAX-PPT, got in at bedtime, got a good night's sleep, and had a great day!
But I suspect this is a pipe dream. With 1-or-less frequency per day, they'll want to maximize connecting traffic.
#18
Join Date: Jul 2013
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When I was studying abroad in Italy my family went to FP and I've never forgiven them for it. Of all the years to not go to Hawaii again! My Mom has expressed the past few years she wants to go back but I've always deflected the efforts since it doesn't workout well for MileagePlus earnings.
#19
Join Date: Nov 2007
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#20
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Agreed, this would be awesome. Great leisure route, but I hope (if true) they follow the TN timing of leaving mid-afternoon, arriving late-night - instead of the AF timing of leaving late-night, arriving at the crack of dawn.
I was lucky enough to visit there way back in the day, when AF+NW+CO was still a thing, and just recall that flight being an extra-special misery. Sort of the Europe red-eye problem on crack, where until they finished the meal service and turned off the cabin lights, you got maybe 3-4 hours of sleep before they woke you up for breakfast and started clattering around again. Combined with a puddle-jumper flight to Moorea or Bora Bora, and it made the first couple days of vacation a real jet-laggy drag.
Second time, took the TN flight LAX-PPT, got in at bedtime, got a good night's sleep, and had a great day!
But I suspect this is a pipe dream. With 1-or-less frequency per day, they'll want to maximize connecting traffic.
I was lucky enough to visit there way back in the day, when AF+NW+CO was still a thing, and just recall that flight being an extra-special misery. Sort of the Europe red-eye problem on crack, where until they finished the meal service and turned off the cabin lights, you got maybe 3-4 hours of sleep before they woke you up for breakfast and started clattering around again. Combined with a puddle-jumper flight to Moorea or Bora Bora, and it made the first couple days of vacation a real jet-laggy drag.
Second time, took the TN flight LAX-PPT, got in at bedtime, got a good night's sleep, and had a great day!
But I suspect this is a pipe dream. With 1-or-less frequency per day, they'll want to maximize connecting traffic.
#21
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
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Meh, yeah United will want to make money on this route, don't expect prices to drop. To me FP is delightful with the level of tourism it has now. Hopefully it never goes the way of Maui by building huge megaresorts etc. So prices will remain high and out of reach of most Americans, apart from us frequent fliers, those who can afford $10K on a weeks vacation and those willing to rough it in local hotels. I can't really see this working with more than 1 flight a week similar to Hawaiian.
#22
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Meh, yeah United will want to make money on this route, don't expect prices to drop. To me FP is delightful with the level of tourism it has now. Hopefully it never goes the way of Maui by building huge megaresorts etc. So prices will remain high and out of reach of most Americans, apart from us frequent fliers, those who can afford $10K on a weeks vacation and those willing to rough it in local hotels. I can't really see this working with more than 1 flight a week similar to Hawaiian.
#23
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Very excited for this route if indeed it happens. We get a bit spoiled in SF not having to connect on most routes, but FP is one of the exceptions. Can't stand the LAX connect and would love a way to avoid it.
#24
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CLE
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From what I have read, due to the convoluted land ownership laws in FP, you won't see mega resorts like the ones in Maui. I can't find the article anymore but many hotels that used to operate in Tahiti such as the Hyatt, Club Med and the hotel my family stayed at in Moorea now sit abandoned and rotting away because of the landownership law.
Zero idea if that's still true, or if the situation has gotten better/worse (depending on your perspective!)
#26
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Washington, DC
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<cue armchair ceo mode>
For the past few weeks, I've been wondering if UA could take 4 2-class 763s and start once weekly services on:
SFO-PPT
SFO-RAR (complimenting NZ's once weekly LAX-RAR service)
SFO-PPG
SFO-NAN
The aircraft should have the range for it (they're all less than SFO-CDG, which UA ran with a 763 for a while), containerized cargo, and good product upfront but not overwhelmingly premium heavy. Have two leave Friday afternoon, two leave Saturday afternoon, aircraft and crew sit for 16-18 hours, then return back slightly offset from the heavy international banks, but still able to pick up connecting traffic (plus I think makes it possible to pick up some traffic from people completing RTW trips - it seemed like RAR-LAX got some of those folks when I took it earlier this year). I don't know if the joint venture with Air New Zealand covers these islands, but if so, that makes ground handling, cargo relationships, and sales/marketing on the island side much easier.
For the past few weeks, I've been wondering if UA could take 4 2-class 763s and start once weekly services on:
SFO-PPT
SFO-RAR (complimenting NZ's once weekly LAX-RAR service)
SFO-PPG
SFO-NAN
The aircraft should have the range for it (they're all less than SFO-CDG, which UA ran with a 763 for a while), containerized cargo, and good product upfront but not overwhelmingly premium heavy. Have two leave Friday afternoon, two leave Saturday afternoon, aircraft and crew sit for 16-18 hours, then return back slightly offset from the heavy international banks, but still able to pick up connecting traffic (plus I think makes it possible to pick up some traffic from people completing RTW trips - it seemed like RAR-LAX got some of those folks when I took it earlier this year). I don't know if the joint venture with Air New Zealand covers these islands, but if so, that makes ground handling, cargo relationships, and sales/marketing on the island side much easier.
Regardless, if they start some level of SFO-PPT service would be great for United.
#27
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I would love for this to come about! I could see UA using a 788 on the route
#28
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ok am I the only one who doesnt get the comments along the lines of "oh great now I can finally go there"?
Like, there are already two widebody nonstop flights to PPT - anyone can go at any time....
Like, there are already two widebody nonstop flights to PPT - anyone can go at any time....
#29
Join Date: Nov 2007
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#30
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CLE
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Having been (for cash), I have to say that I'd go back in a heartbeat, but I'm not sure I'd pay full-bore to go again. There's lots of other places on Earth (and beyond) that I can't go on points, and I'd rather use my hard-earned cash to go somewhere new instead.
But a "cheap", opportunistic points-acquired seat to PPT for a quick vacation sometime? Heck yes - in a heartbeat.