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Old Nov 26, 2018, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by kevflyer
United has continued to evaluate and adapt its network and based on demand trends, the airline will suspend service from Denver (DEN) to Everett, Washington (PAE), effective Oct. 5, 2021. United will continue to serve the region with non-stop service to Seattle (SEA) from Denver, New York/Newark, Houston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, D.C. and San Francisco.
United Airlines Announces Tickets Now Available for New Daily Service Between Paine Field and Denver and San Francisco
Now offering customers six daily flights connecting Seattle-area to more than 110 destinations
United Airlines returns to Paine Field where it operated the first commercial flight in 1939

EVERETT, Wash., Nov. 26, 2018 / -- United Airlines today announced it will begin nonstop service between Paine Field/Snohomish County Airport and its hubs in Denver and San Francisco. Subject to government approval, United will operate two daily flights from Denver and four daily flights from San Francisco, beginning March 31, 2019. Tickets are now available for purchase.

"We are excited to offer our Seattle and Northwest Washington area travelers new opportunities to easily access our hubs in Denver and San Francisco," said Ankit Gupta, United's vice president of Domestic Network Planning. "With United's six daily flights from Paine Field beginning this spring, our new service will conveniently connect customers from the Northern Seattle, Snohomish and Northern King County areas to the world's largest business and leisure destinations with just one stop."




United operates up to 40 daily flights between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport and its U.S. hubs. North Seattle and Northwest Washington are among the fastest growing areas in the nation and United's new service connects Paine Field to two of the airline's largest hubs offering customers more opportunities to easily connect to hundreds of domestic destinations including California's Central Coast, Colorado, Hawaii and New York City. United's new service also offers customers more opportunities to conveniently connect to popular international destinations including Sydney, London, and Mexico City.

"We are excited about the business and travel opportunities that will come with United's service at Paine Field," said Dave Somers, Snohomish County Executive. "Snohomish County is proud to be part of this very exciting story in commercial aviation."

"United's new service at Everett will allow customers to get on a United plane in Everett and easily connect to hundreds of destinations around the world while enjoying United's world class service," said Brett Smith, Propeller Airport's CEO.
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 2:13 pm
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i looked up PAE on google flight. This airport is not even listed
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 2:25 pm
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United, Alaska and Southwest plan on using Paine Field. The new passenger terminal is set to open Sept 2018 and already be at full capacity. Here is the Wiki post about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paine_Field

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Old Nov 25, 2018, 10:53 am
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Flights start March 31, 4x daily from SFO and 2x daily from DEN. Alaska will be the only other carrier at PAE, but with 18 flights per day.
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 11:17 am
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United Airlines Announces Tickets Now Available for New Daily Service Between Paine Field and Denver and San Francisco
Now offering customers six daily flights connecting Seattle-area to more than 110 destinations
United Airlines returns to Paine Field where it operated the first commercial flight in 1939

EVERETT, Wash., Nov. 26, 2018 / -- United Airlines today announced it will begin nonstop service between Paine Field/Snohomish County Airport and its hubs in Denver and San Francisco. Subject to government approval, United will operate two daily flights from Denver and four daily flights from San Francisco, beginning March 31, 2019. Tickets are now available for purchase.

"We are excited to offer our Seattle and Northwest Washington area travelers new opportunities to easily access our hubs in Denver and San Francisco," said Ankit Gupta, United's vice president of Domestic Network Planning. "With United's six daily flights from Paine Field beginning this spring, our new service will conveniently connect customers from the Northern Seattle, Snohomish and Northern King County areas to the world's largest business and leisure destinations with just one stop."




United operates up to 40 daily flights between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport and its U.S. hubs. North Seattle and Northwest Washington are among the fastest growing areas in the nation and United's new service connects Paine Field to two of the airline's largest hubs offering customers more opportunities to easily connect to hundreds of domestic destinations including California's Central Coast, Colorado, Hawaii and New York City. United's new service also offers customers more opportunities to conveniently connect to popular international destinations including Sydney, London, and Mexico City.

"We are excited about the business and travel opportunities that will come with United's service at Paine Field," said Dave Somers, Snohomish County Executive. "Snohomish County is proud to be part of this very exciting story in commercial aviation."

"United's new service at Everett will allow customers to get on a United plane in Everett and easily connect to hundreds of destinations around the world while enjoying United's world class service," said Brett Smith, Propeller Airport's CEO.
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And in the other direction





Appears the two aircraft & crews? are doing RON ( Remain Over Night) @ PAE

With 9:22PM and 11:54PM arrivals and two 6 AM depatures -- the 9:22 PM crew might be legal but not the 11:54PM
So three overnighting crews or some shuffling with SEA?

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Old Nov 26, 2018, 1:22 pm
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Anxiously waiting for PAE-ORD aka the Boeing Express!
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
And in the other direction





Appears the two aircraft & crews? are doing RON ( Remain Over Night) @ PAE

With 9:22PM and 11:54PM arrivals and two 6 AM depatures -- the 9:22 PM crew might be legal but not the 11:54PM
So three overnighting crews or some shuffling with SEA?
I would have thought that the 6:39 pm arrival from SFO could do an immediate turn-around and fly back at 7:15 pm to SFO, but guess that the crew will beheld over for one of the 6 am flights.
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
With 9:22PM and 11:54PM arrivals and two 6 AM depatures -- the 9:22 PM crew might be legal but not the 11:54PM
So three overnighting crews or some shuffling with SEA?
I can't imagine they'd send somebody in a car every night from PAE to SEA.

They're clearly planning to mix planes between DEN and SFO.
DEN0925 - 1130PAE / PAE1210 - 1426SFO
DEN1915 - 2122PAE / PAE0600 - 0948DEN
SFO1100 - 1324PAE / PAE1400 - 1616SFO
SFO1245 - 1507PAE / PAE1545 - 1933DEN
SFO1615 - 1839PAE / PAE1915 - 2131SFO
SFO2130 - 2354PAE / PAE0600 - 0816SFO

One or the other of the PAE0600 flights is likely to be delayed on a semi-regular basis, but I don't think this is automatically a contract violation, depending upon the specific duty cycles.
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
I can't imagine they'd send somebody in a car every night from PAE to SEA.

They're clearly planning to mix planes between DEN and SFO.
DEN0925 - 1130PAE / PAE1210 - 1426SFO
DEN1915 - 2122PAE / PAE0600 - 0948DEN
SFO1100 - 1324PAE / PAE1400 - 1616SFO
SFO1245 - 1507PAE / PAE1545 - 1933DEN
SFO1615 - 1839PAE / PAE1915 - 2131SFO
SFO2130 - 2354PAE / PAE0600 - 0816SFO

One or the other of the PAE0600 flights is likely to be delayed on a semi-regular basis, but I don't think this is automatically a contract violation, depending upon the specific duty cycles.
Or, perhaps, UA is bringing in pilots/crews on these flights to fly A/C out of PAE and potentially give them the option to re-route pilots/crews if needed?

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Old Nov 26, 2018, 8:13 pm
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Or, perhaps, UA is bringing in pilots/crews on these flights to fly A/C out of PAE and potentially give them the option to re-route pilots/crews if needed?

David
This seems like the only realistic option.

If one of the 6:00AM departures is chronically late, this will cause some major pains at PAE. The terminal only has two gates and with 24 departures per day, will have some very high gate utilization.

Alaska's first departure is at 6:30AM with additional departures every 30 minutes for the next two hours, so United will have to have its two flights out.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 12:25 am
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This seems like the only realistic option.

If one of the 6:00AM departures is chronically late, this will cause some major pains at PAE. The terminal only has two gates and with 24 departures per day, will have some very high gate utilization.

Alaska's first departure is at 6:30AM with additional departures every 30 minutes for the next two hours, so United will have to have its two flights out.
VERY unlikely they will do that. More often than not, Skywest crews have more than minimum rest. For example, the crew that brings the flight in at 13:24 from SFO could layover, showing early the next morning for the first AM departure. The last crew to arrive at night at 23:54 would then take out the 14:00 departure to SFO. This is common practice.

PAE is close enough to SEA for it to be a co-domicile and OO has a crew base in SEA. This means these flights COULD be crewed by Seattle crews eliminating the need for crew hotels. I would not expect this to happen as SEA crews usually fly only AS and DL flights, but it is a possibility.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 8:51 am
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Here's the killer....

SEA-SFO is 678 miles
PAE-SFO is 710 miles

PAE-SFO will NOT qualify for 10K award tickets because it's over 700 miles. SEA-SFO still will.

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Old Nov 27, 2018, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Raymoland
VERY unlikely they will do that. More often than not, Skywest crews have more than minimum rest. For example, the crew that brings the flight in at 13:24 from SFO could layover, showing early the next morning for the first AM departure. The last crew to arrive at night at 23:54 would then take out the 14:00 departure to SFO. This is common practice.

PAE is close enough to SEA for it to be a co-domicile and OO has a crew base in SEA. This means these flights COULD be crewed by Seattle crews eliminating the need for crew hotels. I would not expect this to happen as SEA crews usually fly only AS and DL flights, but it is a possibility.
Didn't think about it that way. That makes total sense. Thank you.
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 12:53 am
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Paine Field- SFO one way in F over $5000


Kinda crazy. Obviously an error!
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 2:00 am
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Wasn't able to book UA in/out of PAE for the Boeing Factory Tour/PAE/SEA mini-DO March 22-24, 2019 since service begins after the DO.

Any FTers booked on UA in/out of PAE yet?

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