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Old Jul 13, 2017, 12:52 pm
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LHR-SFO UA900 one-way, no J for sale because F is cheaper
I looked at UA900 for the entire week of 8/20 onward, and could not find a single J seat listed for sale despite the seat chart showing oodles of openings and F also having availability.

What can possibly be happening? Related in some way to transitioning out of the 747?
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:00 pm
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Searching RT either for economy or business LHR-SFO departing the week of Aug 20th, I see business seats for sale ($1,600-ish)

OW is also available but $9K!!
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Searching RT either for economy or business LHR-SFO departing the week of Aug 20th, I see business seats for sale ($1,600-ish)
A full $1300 cheaper RT than the reverse (SFO-LHR)!
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
A full $1300 cheaper RT than the reverse (SFO-LHR)!
The $1,600-ish was just the LHR-SFO portion (sort of a bogus number, but it was for sale versus the OP porblem of not seeing anything).

The return & total RT prices varies significantly depending on stay length
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
The $1,600-ish was just the LHR-SFO portion (sort of a bogus number, but it was for sale versus the OP porblem of not seeing anything).

The return & total RT prices varies significantly depending on stay length
Cheapest fares are around $3000 RT ex-LHR and $4300 ex-SFO.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Searching RT either for economy or business LHR-SFO departing the week of Aug 20th, I see business seats for sale ($1,600-ish)

OW is also available but $9K!!
When I search daily for flight 900, there are no tabs to purchase a J seat (OW).
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
When I search daily for flight 900, there are no tabs to purchase a J seat (OW).
I see what you mean. Just the F returns for a one-way purchase.

But you can buy the RT in P for $3k.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
When I search daily for flight 900, there are no tabs to purchase a J seat (OW).
The problem appears to be that there's an one-way F fare published that is cheaper than the one-way J fare, so that's all it is returning.

This is only showing up for UA900 and not UA949, as 949 doesn't have F so it's giving the J fare.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
When I search daily for flight 900, there are no tabs to purchase a J seat (OW).
When I search each day that week, OW, Business, LHR-SFO, 10:25AM UA900 -- the fare is $9K -- but it appears to be F, not J

Using FF and IE


When logged out, it states no business but sells F (for the same price)
compared to full J fare on UA949 ($9,500)


Appears you may be running into a OW fare rule issue where a F is cheapest??? versus Full J
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
When I search daily for flight 900, there are no tabs to purchase a J seat (OW).
As people probably know, LHR is not really a market that believes in allowing people to purchase one way tickets. This is the entire fare table for one-way tickets LHR-SFO (origin Europe).

Code:
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Cxr     Basis      BC  Cbn  Cur    Price   Tp  AP  Rf  
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 UA  BFFGBOWW       B   Y   GBP  1,143.00  OW       Y
 UA  Y77OW          Y   Y   GBP  2,869.00  OW       Y
 UA  J77OW          J   J   GBP  6,999.00  OW       Y
 UA  F77OW          F   F   GBP  6,553.00  OW       Y
You "can't" buy a ticket in Business class because full F is cheaper. You can buy the J fare on a two-class plane. If you really wanted, you can search for a J fare specifically and book it (website will show it).
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 1:51 pm
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20AUG17 LON UA SFO 8441.97 F77OW NUC 8441.97 END ROE0.77624 150.00GB 41.47UB 164.50YQ 14.00US 3.10XA 5.40XY 4.30YC




GBP Base
GBP Taxes
GBP Total
6,553.00
382.77
6,935.77






1 Customer(s) Total
6,935.77
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by findark
If you really wanted, you can search for a J fare specifically and book it (website will show it).
I could not get it to display. Searched for J and searched for J, C, D, Z. All it returned was F.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
I could not get it to display. Searched for J and searched for J, C, D, Z. All it returned was F.
Odd - I have no issues (sample date 25-Aug):

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Old Aug 1, 2017, 11:18 am
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Can only book First not Business
I have been looking at flight UA 900 and UA 949 LHR to SFO departing August 30th for a week now and even though there are plenty of business fares the website only presents an F fare for "business".

Expert mode shows:
Available fare classes:F5 FN5 A4 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9

But lowest "business" is F at $9115. My problem is I need to book "business" through my company website and the F fare will never fly.

Anybody see this before?
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 11:51 am
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I tried it through Google flights, then clicking to book on United. Seems to go into P fare for the outbound and A for the inbound for 3,884.07.

Does this link work?
https://www.united.com/ual/en/gb/fli...ndorQuery=True
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