To the non-rev in row 4.....
#31
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I can always tell who non-revs are (besides the obvious hanging at the gate until the last minute). Unfortunately, it's usually a loud, obnoxious behavior coupled with "borderline" dress code - excluding, of course, the more senior people who know better. NOBODY is traveling on my passes if I have even a thought that they will act up or are unable to even fake some sort of quiet and modest demeanor.
In the early days I would wear my badge and chat with the crew. Then I encountered some overzealous FA's who seemed to have an issue with nonrevs in general; assuming I worked for Express and going off on me for no particular reason other than just having an attitude....then the look of horror when they actually looked at the manifest saw my boarding priority and then realized I worked in HQS.
Of course nowadays I have the lowest boarding priority and often find the treatment much better---go figure. However, I don't volunteer that I am a non-rev and quite specifically I apply the same behavior whether I am non-revving or on a paid ticket----always thank the FA, don't act like I own the place, and comply with all instructions.
#32
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I sat across from some super obnoxious non-revs in E+ on NRT-IAD a couple of years ago. How did I know who they were? The FAs moved paying pax so this couple could have their own row in E+. Then they spent the whole 16 hours with one or another of their FA friends who were working the flight (and ignoring pax) standing in the aisle gabbing about work. These guys had every food and beverage item from J brought back to them, but it was pulling teeth to get a refill on my water with no ice.
Setting aside the obnoxious non-rev behavior, it was absolutely the rudest crew I have had on any airline in any class of service. I wrote to UA (specifically included the behavior of the non-revs) and got a canned sorry-if-you-were-disappointed response. So, don't expect much. Next time I doubt I would bother writing in.
Setting aside the obnoxious non-rev behavior, it was absolutely the rudest crew I have had on any airline in any class of service. I wrote to UA (specifically included the behavior of the non-revs) and got a canned sorry-if-you-were-disappointed response. So, don't expect much. Next time I doubt I would bother writing in.
#33
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I fly Non-Rev on AA (As a Registered Companion on my Aunts benefits who is a retiree) and for the most part, the other non-revs I see are pretty well behaved. Occasionally I'll see a buddy pass rider who hasn't been fully informed of all the "rules" by the sponsoring employee but I haven't seen anything outrageous.
#34
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Definitely send an email. I am tired of this behaviour and the seat poaching that they seem to think is acceptable.
#35
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#36
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#38
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Tell that to someone like me who has no qualms wears sweats in first/business.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
#39
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Tell that to someone like me who has no qualms wears sweats in first/business.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
#40
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Tell that to someone like me who has no qualms wears sweats in first/business.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
That being said, I do often get scrutinized by agents when checking in at the Premier area / Business area in sweatpants. They ask if I'm Premier / Business and when I say yes, they ask again, and again.
Isn't there a code of conduct for non-revs and buddy passes?
#42
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Count me as a dinosaur, but I miss the olden days of dressing up to fly. While I don't mind people wearing neat jeans and a shirt with a collar -- and my usual attire is only khakis and a button-down shirt. I do find the shorts/tank top/tee shirt printed with an insolent phrase/holey jeans crowd to be a bit disrespectful. Wear a suit on the plane once in a while (I do). I think you will be surprised how much it makes you feel respected --which then usually equates to comfortable.
While I recognize that the view of many is that "I paid my money, I'll wear what I want," part of the romance of travel is making it an occasion, as opposed to just transportation.
While I recognize that the view of many is that "I paid my money, I'll wear what I want," part of the romance of travel is making it an occasion, as opposed to just transportation.
#43
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Usually I'll wear a gray light jacket unzipped over a usually black shirt with mesh sweatpants.
For some reason though, I'm more embarrassed if I have to carry a backpack around than if I look slightly out of it (sorry, I try. But after sometimes having as many as 4-5 flights in a day to get home with at least a few bumps -it wears on you)
#44
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Also - in general - when a person appears on both standby and upgrade list (with low priority), it is a reliable indicator that the person is a non-rev.
The operation of GUM-HNL is indeed interesting in many levels.
#45
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Count me as a dinosaur, but I miss the olden days of dressing up to fly. While I don't mind people wearing neat jeans and a shirt with a collar -- and my usual attire is only khakis and a button-down shirt. I do find the shorts/tank top/tee shirt printed with an insolent phrase/holey jeans crowd to be a bit disrespectful. Wear a suit on the plane once in a while (I do). I think you will be surprised how much it makes you feel respected --which then usually equates to comfortable.
While I recognize that the view of many is that "I paid my money, I'll wear what I want," part of the romance of travel is making it an occasion, as opposed to just transportation.
While I recognize that the view of many is that "I paid my money, I'll wear what I want," part of the romance of travel is making it an occasion, as opposed to just transportation.