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Non Rev United Club Access
#46
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: UA, Starwood, Priority Club, Hertz, Starbucks Gold Card
Posts: 3,952
It's not my obligation nor desire to prove me right or you wrong, but I kindly suggest that it's to your benefit to be more scrupulous with second-handed "facts."
added: Besides, this argument is pointless in regard to OP. NRSAs today can and do use their respective airline lounges. That's all that matters.
Last edited by sinoflyer; Sep 26, 2017 at 12:22 am Reason: added
#47
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: LAS
Programs: 3 MMer
Posts: 458
Btw, I really see no reason for some to get all huffy about someone posting a rule that has been changed and they honestly didn't know was revised.
Bigger problems lie ahead --- Like whether I get my upgrade on my 3rd segment, from XXX to ZZZ (or is it YYY?) !!!
#48
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: What I write is my opinion alone..don't read into it anything not written.
Posts: 9,686
Gonna guess it would be a pass, ZED, or ID discounted ticket and a gold level status, where the status benefits do not apply on the pass/ZED/ID ticket. But I'm not a UC agent nor a manager of the lounge programs, so it's just a guess
#49
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 204
Wow, the misinformation. As a 25+ year recently retired UA (pre-merger UA) employee, I was an RCC/UC member almost the entire time (and still am). I believe some airlines had policies prohibiting employee members but PMUA did not.
Currently, not only are employee members allowed but as was posted above, employee travel profile can be linked to MP number meaning I scan my NRSA BP or what used to be called a DM card at the club entrance and the system does the rest (also has the advantage of NRSA listings show up in the United app automatically and listings can be made through the app - unlike most people, when we choose "Book A Flight" on the app, we then get a "Choose Travel Type" menu to choose between Revenue/Award and NRSA).
The restriction on employee ticket access in that chart seems to be strictly related to lounge entitlement based on having an appropriate *A ticket. It does not negate entitlement if the passenger is entitled to lounge access by another means.
Currently, not only are employee members allowed but as was posted above, employee travel profile can be linked to MP number meaning I scan my NRSA BP or what used to be called a DM card at the club entrance and the system does the rest (also has the advantage of NRSA listings show up in the United app automatically and listings can be made through the app - unlike most people, when we choose "Book A Flight" on the app, we then get a "Choose Travel Type" menu to choose between Revenue/Award and NRSA).
The restriction on employee ticket access in that chart seems to be strictly related to lounge entitlement based on having an appropriate *A ticket. It does not negate entitlement if the passenger is entitled to lounge access by another means.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1K 2MM / Marriott LTP
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#51
Join Date: May 2006
Location: PMD
Programs: UA*G, NW, AA-G. WR-P, HH-G, IHG-S, ALL. TT-GE.
Posts: 2,911
Final result: Yes
So to report the result: Yes, not a problem, and no questions were raised when the still-not-cleared standby BP was scanned at two clubs at that hub.
OTOH, returning LHR-IAD-LAX on Econ, LAX denied me entry as I was purely arriving. I had no checked bag and was going to get re-caffeinated for the drive home. From reading the rules, I think the club agent was wrong, although the phrasing for *G "departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered" is not as strong as that for J/F "may access United Club locations at departure, connecting and arrival airports along their eligible same-day routing".
OTOH, returning LHR-IAD-LAX on Econ, LAX denied me entry as I was purely arriving. I had no checked bag and was going to get re-caffeinated for the drive home. From reading the rules, I think the club agent was wrong, although the phrasing for *G "departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered" is not as strong as that for J/F "may access United Club locations at departure, connecting and arrival airports along their eligible same-day routing".
#53
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
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So to report the result: Yes, not a problem, and no questions were raised when the still-not-cleared standby BP was scanned at two clubs at that hub.
OTOH, returning LHR-IAD-LAX on Econ, LAX denied me entry as I was purely arriving. I had no checked bag and was going to get re-caffeinated for the drive home. From reading the rules, I think the club agent was wrong, although the phrasing for *G "departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered" is not as strong as that for J/F "may access United Club locations at departure, connecting and arrival airports along their eligible same-day routing".
OTOH, returning LHR-IAD-LAX on Econ, LAX denied me entry as I was purely arriving. I had no checked bag and was going to get re-caffeinated for the drive home. From reading the rules, I think the club agent was wrong, although the phrasing for *G "departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered" is not as strong as that for J/F "may access United Club locations at departure, connecting and arrival airports along their eligible same-day routing".
#54
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Haze gray and underway
Programs: UA 1K 2MM, HH Diamond, Marriott 'clink clink' Titanium
Posts: 1,784
Ah, yes I was sitting with two in DEN on Saturday.
Please for sake of clarity when posting time as 12:00AM - please post as 12:01 so that the muddled are not spending time guessing as 12:00 = Midnight or noon.
PS: When waiting for a UG on the third leg it doesn't matter if it's ZZZ or YYY or QQQ
This is correct. I am presently 12:00 a.m. in a U/C and inquired. The agents best guess is approx 10/12 years ago the rules changed and employees are now allowed in the club as guests and/or on paid membership.
Btw, I really see no reason for some to get all huffy about someone posting a rule that has been changed and they honestly didn't know was revised.
Bigger problems lie ahead --- Like whether I get my upgrade on my 3rd segment, from XXX to ZZZ (or is it YYY?) !!!
Btw, I really see no reason for some to get all huffy about someone posting a rule that has been changed and they honestly didn't know was revised.
Bigger problems lie ahead --- Like whether I get my upgrade on my 3rd segment, from XXX to ZZZ (or is it YYY?) !!!
PS: When waiting for a UG on the third leg it doesn't matter if it's ZZZ or YYY or QQQ
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Oct 8, 2017 at 10:44 am Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member
#55
formerly Sleepy_Sentry
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 614
United Club Membership & Non-Rev Travel
I'm a United Club member and have recently been given access to a United employee's non-revenue travel benefits. If I have a United Club membership, am I able to access the lounge when flying on a non-revenue basis?
I checked for similar threads and was not able to find anything specifically about passengers with formal club memberships.
I checked for similar threads and was not able to find anything specifically about passengers with formal club memberships.
#56
Join Date: May 2006
Location: STL
Programs: UA Platinum, AA Platinum Pro, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,429
I'm a United Club member and have recently been given access to a United employee's non-revenue travel benefits. If I have a United Club membership, am I able to access the lounge when flying on a non-revenue basis?
I checked for similar threads and was not able to find anything specifically about passengers with formal club memberships.
I checked for similar threads and was not able to find anything specifically about passengers with formal club memberships.
#57
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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There was a time back in history when most airline rules said that employees could not join the clubs, which implied that even if the employee were flying on a revenue ticket, there would be no lounge access unless it was a premium cabin ticket that permitted lounge use. Of course, one suspects that there were exceptions for high level executives.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.
#59
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
There was a time back in history when most airline rules said that employees could not join the clubs, which implied that even if the employee were flying on a revenue ticket, there would be no lounge access unless it was a premium cabin ticket that permitted lounge use. Of course, one suspects that there were exceptions for high level executives.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.
Right, because it might mess up the Rondele cheese supply if too many employees binged on this former CO PC mainstay.
#60
formerly Sleepy_Sentry
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 614
The requirement for UA Club entry is a same day UA flight. Regardless of non-rev or rev, as long as you are on a UA flight it shouldn't be an issue. I know on DL, back when CO was part of SkyTeam, the agents at the Crown Room weren't keen on allowing non-rev passengers entry.
There was a time back in history when most airline rules said that employees could not join the clubs, which implied that even if the employee were flying on a revenue ticket, there would be no lounge access unless it was a premium cabin ticket that permitted lounge use. Of course, one suspects that there were exceptions for high level executives.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.
In fact, I remember a time at a DO when we were first meeting in the airline lounge upon arrival and several employees participating in the event (who were meeting us as we arrived) were very careful to explain why they were entering the lounge with us and did not partake of F&B.