Less legroom on AA, will UA follow?
May 2, 2017, 10:03 pm
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Less legroom on AA, will UA follow?
Saw on the news tonight that AA is going to add more seats to some of their 737's. How? By reducing legroom by 2" to 29" in the last 3 rows and down to 30" for the rest of economy, except MCE. News report said UA was considering doing the same. Think there are angry people on planes now? Just wait.
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
May 2, 2017, 10:19 pm
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Saw on the news tonight that AA is going to add more seats to some of their 737's. How? By reducing legroom by 2" to 29" in the last 3 rows and down to 30" for the rest of economy, except MCE. News report said UA was considering doing the same. Think there are angry people on planes now? Just wait.
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
May 2, 2017, 10:27 pm
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I'm becoming increasingly worried that the short pitch is compromising safety. I wonder if the FAA is requiring evacuation tests on these setups.
May 2, 2017, 10:36 pm
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Let's not confuse pitch with legroom.The going assumption is that the slimline seats enable reduced pitch without as much impact on legroom. Comfort with the slimline seats, however, is an issue.
May 3, 2017, 5:56 am
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Here is the link to the CNN Money report.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/02/news...oom/index.html
American isn't the only big airline heading in this direction. United Airlines (UAL) is considering a similar move, according to a person briefed on its evaluations. United declined to comment.
May 3, 2017, 6:53 am
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While this is messed up, look at it from AA viewpoint:
This move will not deter its loyal customers, because they always reserve economy plus (I am UA flyer, so I don't know the exact name of American's Econ+).
90/100 non frequent fliers don't know 27 inches from 31 inches, and book for lowest price.
This is how I would look at things if this happened at UA.
Now if they start messing with Econ +, then we have a problem.
This move will not deter its loyal customers, because they always reserve economy plus (I am UA flyer, so I don't know the exact name of American's Econ+).
90/100 non frequent fliers don't know 27 inches from 31 inches, and book for lowest price.
This is how I would look at things if this happened at UA.
Now if they start messing with Econ +, then we have a problem.
May 3, 2017, 6:55 am
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Anyone remember back when AA took out seats to give more leg room on every flight?
I do wonder at what point it will be shown that decreased legroom affects safety. I wonder if the NTSB has made any comment on the subject in the past. Unless we have a few fatal air accidents that directly point to the seat pitch, I doubt the FAA will ever do anything about it.
UA calls it "Economy Plus"
UA has already messed with E+ reducing by an inch with the slimline seats
Anyone remember back when AA took out seats to give more leg room on every flight?
I do wonder at what point it will be shown that decreased legroom affects safety. I wonder if the NTSB has made any comment on the subject in the past. Unless we have a few fatal air accidents that directly point to the seat pitch, I doubt the FAA will ever do anything about it.
While this is messed up, look at it from AA viewpoint:
This move will not deter its loyal customers, because they always reserve economy plus (I am UA flyer, so I don't know the exact name of American's Econ+).
90/100 non frequent fliers don't know 27 inches from 31 inches, and book for lowest price.
This is how I would look at things if this happened at UA.
Now if they start messing with Econ +, then we have a problem.
This move will not deter its loyal customers, because they always reserve economy plus (I am UA flyer, so I don't know the exact name of American's Econ+).
90/100 non frequent fliers don't know 27 inches from 31 inches, and book for lowest price.
This is how I would look at things if this happened at UA.
Now if they start messing with Econ +, then we have a problem.
UA has already messed with E+ reducing by an inch with the slimline seats
May 3, 2017, 6:56 am
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Saw on the news tonight that AA is going to add more seats to some of their 737's. How? By reducing legroom by 2" to 29" in the last 3 rows and down to 30" for the rest of economy, except MCE. News report said UA was considering doing the same. Think there are angry people on planes now? Just wait.
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
May 3, 2017, 6:58 am
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May 3, 2017, 7:00 am
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Saw on the news tonight that AA is going to add more seats to some of their 737's. How? By reducing legroom by 2" to 29" in the last 3 rows and down to 30" for the rest of economy, except MCE. News report said UA was considering doing the same. Think there are angry people on planes now? Just wait.
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
What do you think? Will UA match it or make it even worse?
Answer, of course, is that they wouldn't.
But then, perhaps the doom-and-gloom predictions are unfounded, and loads and bookings are holding steady.
Not exactly a bellwether for the industry, but BA already has some 29" seat pitches.
May 3, 2017, 8:09 am
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Do a little research about survival on UA 232, those that could not get their heads below the seats in front of them, didn't do well....during a crash sequence the reduced distance between seats does affect survivability...