Forced to gate check rollerboard on ERJ-145
#76
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I'm not sure that I agree with your characterization of OpSpecs as modifications of flight regulations. While I am merely a (not-airline) pilot and not an expert in airline certification, I would argue that the OpSpec describes the procedures the airline will use to ensure that it complies with the publicly-available regulations rather than describing modifications to the regulations themselves.
People are going to "back-seat dispatch" regardless -- just look at the number of people who insist that UA should operate their flight because they looked out the window and the weather seemed fine.
Anyway, this tangent has drifted pretty far off-topic at this point. The bottom line is, UA should do a better job communicating the regulations for carry-on luggage on their E145/C200ATR42. And if it's going to vary by operating airline, they probably should point that out also.
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The ERJ-145 is operated for United by ExpressJet, Commutair, and Trans States airlines.
The CRJ-200 is operated for United by Air Wisconsin and SkyWest.
The CRJ-700 is operated for United by SkyWest, Go-Jets, and Mesa.
The EMB-170/175 is operated for United by SkyWest, Republic, and Mesa.
(Did I leave any out other than Cape Air in Guam?)
Each airline has its own carry-on bag program which, while similar, may not be identical.
All I can do is explain the regulations and procedures to the extent that I know them but I don't think this will be enough. You are obviously not satisfied with the situation; so, I suggest that you contact United, via the web site, to register your complaint and, perhaps, get an official explanation. You can also file a DOT complaint if you believe that the carrier isn't following the applicable regulations and airline procedures.
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in most cases roller bags and other larger carry-on items will not fit in United Express overhead bins.
And yes I already did contact United and got a token response and small cert, but no firm response on their policy of course (which is what I'd really like to have). I'd like to have something written that I can carry with me to these small airports I now travel to, so I can clearly show without "he said / she said" and avoiding any arguments. That doesn't seem possible.
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Understand that many of them also operate flights for AA and/or DL. The applicable regulations are the operating carrier's, not UA's, exactly as if you were flying on a UA codeshare flight operated by LH or somebody else.
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From what I read -- online, so not a definitive source -- a carrier may be able to get the FAA to waive or to modify a rule that needn't apply to their situation. Even if that's mistaken -- and it certainly may be -- the opspecs carry the force of regulation, since an FAA inspector can take actions against a certificate holder for breaching them.
There are many different authorizations that an airline can choose to seek. Each one has specific requirements that must be met to gain that authorization. For example, Southwest airlines is currently in the process of gaining ETOPS approval. Other 737 operators, such as United, Delta, and Alaska, already have 737 ETOPS authorization. Similarly, Southwest and Alaska have authorization to use takeoff and landing minimums based on a Head-Up-Display (HUD) while United (not sure about Delta) uses fail-passive autoland instead. These airlines are operating the same airplanes differently under different authorizations but each authorization's privileges and restrictions carry the weight of regulation for the airline.
There are also standard exemptions that an airline can apply for and, if the applicable conditions are met, receive. Many of these are quite technical involving airspace authorization or dispatch/weather requirements. Some of these exemptions are quite common and others rather unique.
I don't know if individual airline OpSpecs are public documents. I don't think that they are. Here is an example of a generic B342 OpSpec which covers ETOPS operations. An airline which earns B342 authorization would have this added to their OpSpecs with the information applicable to their authorization filled into the tables.
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...208900.106.pdf
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If I were United, I certainly wouldn't want to provide ammunition to someone who seems hell-bent on picking fights with flight attendants too.
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The only additional advice that I can give you is that it is safe to assume that a wheeled-bag will not be permitted in the cabin on E-145 or CRJ-200 aircraft. Wheeled bags, which meet the sizer requirement as a carry-on bag, will normally be accepted, space permitting, on the larger RJs. I also think that you'll find this to be quite consistent on all US regional airlines regardless of which major airline they are flying for.
I'm sorry that I couldn't be of more help.
I'm sorry that I couldn't be of more help.
Last edited by LarryJ; Apr 11, 2018 at 11:56 am
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Not hell-bent on picking fights with FAs. But yes hell-bent on avoiding checking my bag when it fits easily on a plane and I took my time to make sure I got the right size bag to work on all regional jet fleets.
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This was not a rogue FA, this has been reported for numerous UX carriers and also for other express carriers operating on behalf of other traditional mainline carriers. Probably best to position yourself to be pleasantly surprised when you find an express carrier that allows wheeled bags. Sometimes it is easiest just to accept you have learned something new.
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No doubt it fits. But fitting is not the only criteria, and not all of the criteria may be published on UA.sux.