PS Upgrades...How to?

Old Oct 15, 16, 5:53 pm
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PS Upgrades...How to?

Hi Folks,

Pardon this request if it's been spelled out before. I'm having trouble searching the forum for short terms, like GPU and PS.

I'd like to know what my options are for an evening flight from LAX to EWR on 10/28 and I want to compare the cost of biz first one way $1330 or so with what it would cost for an economy and upgrade instrument seat (I have an RPU, GPUs and miles available). I can't seem to figure out how to search upgradeable fares.

Can anyone tell me how to do it?

Thanks,
Defendem
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Old Oct 15, 16, 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
Hi Folks,

Pardon this request if it's been spelled out before. I'm having trouble searching the forum for short terms, like GPU and PS.

I'd like to know what my options are for an evening flight from LAX to EWR on 10/28 and I want to compare the cost of biz first one way $1330 or so with what it would cost for an economy and upgrade instrument seat (I have an RPU, GPUs and miles available). I can't seem to figure out how to search upgradeable fares.

Can anyone tell me how to do it?

Thanks,
Defendem
UA offers a flight search option for upgradeable flights. Select "all search options" and scan totoard the bottom of the new page, you will have to be logged in to your account for the option to show.

On a PS flights there is no min fare class and the priority of miles, RPU and GPU are the same. Note with miles there will be a copay for most fares.

Another option is to learn about "Expert Mode" and manually look for R inventory.
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Old Oct 15, 16, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
UA offers a flight search option for upgradeable flights. Select "all search options" and scan totoard the bottom of the new page, you will have to be logged in to your account for the option to show.
When I try to do this, on the advanced search page, the results are shown in 3 or four columns. First is an economy fare, second is the business class fare, then the next column is an upgradeable first class fare and there is nothing in this field because there are no first-class seats on the PS flight. It won't show me how much it costs for an economy to business upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
When I try to do this, on the advanced search page, the results are shown in 3 or four columns. First is an economy fare, second is the business class fare, then the next column is an upgradeable first class fare and there is nothing in this field because there are no first-class seats on the PS flight. It won't show me how much it costs for an economy to business upgrade.
Are you selecting an upgrade option on the advanced search page

If you select rpu/gpu it doesn't matter as there are no fare class restrictions for PS flights, only R availability

If you select Miles/money - then it should give you the miles and copay in the second column

Make sure you select buy economy and upgrade to business
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If you want to upgrade to First, then you have to buy business, you can only upgrade one cabin type
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
Hi Folks,

Pardon this request if it's been spelled out before. I'm having trouble searching the forum for short terms, like GPU and PS.

I'd like to know what my options are for an evening flight from LAX to EWR on 10/28 and I want to compare the cost of biz first one way $1330 or so with what it would cost for an economy and upgrade instrument seat (I have an RPU, GPUs and miles available). I can't seem to figure out how to search upgradeable fares.

Can anyone tell me how to do it?

Thanks,
Defendem
Not to burst your bubble, but I would not expect to have any luck applying an instrument upgrade on this flight. The only time when I was able to score it was out of sheer dumb luck...UA pretty much zeroes out the p.s. R fare bucket because they can sell all of the seats up front.
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Old Oct 15, 16, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
... It won't show me how much it costs for an economy to business upgrade.
When using RPU or GPU there is no extra cost, you purchase economy, apply the RPU/GPU and if space exists, you will be upgraded.

For miles, the amount of miles and copay depends on the purchased fare class -- see travel and upgrade award chart page 4

Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 View Post
Not to burst your bubble, but I would not expect to have any luck applying an instrument upgrade on this flight. The only time when I was able to score it was out of sheer dumb luck...UA pretty much zeroes out the p.s. R fare bucket because they can sell all of the seats up front.
Considering I have cleared twice in recent weeks (and I have dropped to Plat for this year) , that is overly pessimist --- it isn't easy and success is far from guaranteed, but it is far from impossible. One was at booking and another was a SDC to a flight with R>0.

Originally Posted by Hipplewm View Post
If you want to upgrade to First, then you have to buy business, you can only upgrade one cabin type
There is no First on PS flights, only BF,E+ and E-.

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Ok, for some reason (likely user error) the search is working for me now. Unfortunately all requests for RPU/GPU are waitlist only. Any folks have experience with RPU/GPU upgrades on these PS routes on Friday nights? (12:45a Saturday morning out of LAX is instantly confirmable, but gets me into EWR too late) What's the likelihood of RPU/GPU success as a 1K on PS service Friday nights? Can fly out of SFO or LAX, though LAX is more convenient
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Interesting...when searching with RPU, the second column is "First (upgrade-eligible Economy Fare)"...just adding to the confusion. I guess it's B/BF/F depending on the day of the week.

Instructions on #4 work, I show the 12:45am (very early Sat) flight is currently R6, at $144+RPU.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
Ok, for some reason (likely user error) the search is working for me now. Unfortunately all requests for RPU/GPU are waitlist only. Any folks have experience with RPU/GPU upgrades on these PS routes on Friday nights? (12:45a Saturday morning out of LAX is instantly confirmable, but gets me into EWR too late) What's the likelihood of RPU/GPU success as a 1K on PS service Friday nights? Can fly out of SFO or LAX, though LAX is more convenient
It's a crapshoot. Using expert mode, look for flights with P and PN inventory; those are most likely to clear.

The Thursday and Friday night red-eyes are very popular though.

And in case this hasn't been made clear already, there are no minimum fare restrictions to upgrade on ps with an RPU/GPU. Higher fares have higher upgrade priority though.

Originally Posted by wh6cto View Post
I guess it's B/BF/F depending on the day of the week.
Front cabin on ps is always BF.
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Old Oct 15, 16, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
Considering I have cleared twice in recent weeks (and I have dropped to Plat for this year) , that is overly pessimist --- it isn't easy and success is far from guaranteed, but it is far from impossible. One was at booking and another was a SDC to a flight with R>0.
Agree.. I'm looking to make a booking at 4 weeks out and I can find R space (although I'm suspicious it's a glitch) plus three or four Saturday flights.

Originally Posted by Defendem View Post
Ok, for some reason (likely user error) the search is working for me now. Unfortunately all requests for RPU/GPU are waitlist only. Any folks have experience with RPU/GPU upgrades on these PS routes on Friday nights? (12:45a Saturday morning out of LAX is instantly confirmable, but gets me into EWR too late) What's the likelihood of RPU/GPU success as a 1K on PS service Friday nights? Can fly out of SFO or LAX, though LAX is more convenient
Open R space is always your best bet. Otherwise, the planes with more J seats are more likely to clear, as are stranger times. As Kacee notes, flights with P or PN space are an indication that UA is pessimistic about selling the seats.
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 View Post
Not to burst your bubble, but I would not expect to have any luck applying an instrument upgrade on this flight. The only time when I was able to score it was out of sheer dumb luck...UA pretty much zeroes out the p.s. R fare bucket because they can sell all of the seats up front.
Depends when you want to fly and how far out. All of my RPUs go to PS flights except for 2 this year for EWR-HNL and GUM-HNL-SFO.
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Originally Posted by Defendem View Post

I want to compare the cost of biz first one way $1330 or so
I know you're asking about upgrading, but did just want to mention that the PS routes are one of the few (only?) domestic routes I know of where round trips are cheaper than the comparable sum of one ways. I.e if you can, book your flight as a round trip and it'll be cheaper.
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Originally Posted by jmanirish View Post
I know you're asking about upgrading, but did just want to mention that the PS routes are one of the few (only?) domestic routes I know of where round trips are cheaper than the comparable sum of one ways. I.e if you can, book your flight as a round trip and it'll be cheaper.
Are you sure about this? To me, it adds up to exactly the same...for whatever reason, the route that still has a huge discrepancy is EWR-SAN.
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Old Oct 16, 16, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 View Post
Are you sure about this? To me, it adds up to exactly the same...for whatever reason, the route that still has a huge discrepancy is EWR-SAN.
The p.s. BF fare table went entirely one-way a couple of months ago.
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