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United's Announcement and FAQ
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
Kacee's Interpretation
Main Impact Since October 6
- Fee Changes such as platinum members are subject to various award fees
- No more free stopover - replaced with Excursionist Perk
- Agents no longer have the ability to find routings that do not show up on united.com
- Manually constructing trips using multi-city search results in multiple award fares being charged
- Changing any segment MIGHT require current availability for all existing Os&Ds in the PNR (as if a brand new booking is made) - YMMV
- Singapore Airlines segments are priced separately (add-ons)
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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
UA award booking,change questions/fees/issues/routing/excursionist problems {Archive}
#1501
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,727
Unfortunately, multi-city search doesn't work very well. We've theorized that the issue is that the total length of the query time is limited (to improve responsiveness), and that the multi-city queries take longer and generate more results, so they time out earlier -- but it's just a theory. An agent can normally book that type of itinerary as a round-trip if so desired (e.g., to limit change fees).
In theory, yes, if you get a good agent. In practice, YMMV unless there is still space available on all of the un-flown segments. I have personally been able to do this -- even online -- in the post-Oct 2016 world, but I'd consider that anecdotal evidence at best, and certainly not a guarantee of future UA behavior.
In theory, yes, if you get a good agent. In practice, YMMV unless there is still space available on all of the un-flown segments. I have personally been able to do this -- even online -- in the post-Oct 2016 world, but I'd consider that anecdotal evidence at best, and certainly not a guarantee of future UA behavior.
One other question, I have to start at YYZ because there's no saver space from DC to Toronto. I don't believe you can combine saver & standard on a one way, but would it be possible to book two separate awards or even two separate tickets and have them linked to prevent missed connections?
#1502
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
One other question, I have to start at YYZ because there's no saver space from DC to Toronto. I don't believe you can combine saver & standard on a one way, but would it be possible to book two separate awards or even two separate tickets and have them linked to prevent missed connections?
Anyway, under the new policy, this will price as a one-way intra-North America standard award plus a round-trip North America to Europe *A award -- in other words, an extra 25K, assuming you choose coach for the WAS-YYZ leg. I just tried this out and I can verify that it priced correctly.
#1503
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,727
Unfortunately, it isn't possible to link PNRs to help with missed connections. However, if you are willing to pay for the standard award from WAS to YYZ, try using multi-city search to insert YYZ as an additional destination. UA to AC has a one hour minimum connection time at YYZ, and I'd argue the sensible connection time is closer to two hours, especially if you're planning to stop at the lounge or at a restaurant.
Anyway, under the new policy, this will price as a one-way intra-North America standard award plus a round-trip North America to Europe *A award -- in other words, an extra 25K, assuming you choose coach for the WAS-YYZ leg. I just tried this out and I can verify that it priced correctly.
Anyway, under the new policy, this will price as a one-way intra-North America standard award plus a round-trip North America to Europe *A award -- in other words, an extra 25K, assuming you choose coach for the WAS-YYZ leg. I just tried this out and I can verify that it priced correctly.
#1504
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 9
Baggage question
Sorry if this has been asked and answered. I am currently waiting for my flight using the Excursionist Perk. I am flying Brussels Airlines from CDG to BRU. They said my economy award ticket from United doesn't include checked baggage. Does the Excursionist Perk flight include baggage? I ended up paying 35 euro baggage fee and I'm wondering if I can get United to reimburse me.
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#1505
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: United
Posts: 7
New Zealand award travel
So I am trying to book award tickets to new zealand (ZQN in particular via AKL or SYD) in august for a ski trip. Departure airport will be SFO. United stopped running it's AKL direct route in the southern hemisphere winter, so the only airline that does so is Air New Zealand. I can't figure out how to find (if any exist) even direct economy tickets on that flight via awards. Is it possible to do so?
If not I'll just have to route through SYD or somewhere in Asia. Any recommendations on how to do so and end up in ZQN? Obviously business class saver is hard there, so I might try the waitlist trick?
If not I'll just have to route through SYD or somewhere in Asia. Any recommendations on how to do so and end up in ZQN? Obviously business class saver is hard there, so I might try the waitlist trick?
#1506
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Dusseldorf
Programs: LH Senator, Hertz Presidents Circle, IHG Plat. Previous: UA 1K, AAdvantage Platinum;
Posts: 638
International Award Question
UA Experts -
Looking for some ideas and help
I currently have two bookings (1k saver awards):
1: TLV-SEA (via FRA)
2: PDX-TLV (via SFO)
The first one was made back in September before the Award Ticket changes.
At this point I am trying to find a way to combine the two reservations into one so I can add in a "stopover" using the new excursionist perk.
Desired change:
TLV-SEA (via FRA) - No Change
SEA-LAX (excursionist perk)
LAX-SEA (via SFO) - Change PDX-SFO to LAX-SFO (same day)
I have found (online) saver availability on the SEA-LAX and LAX-SFO segments.
How can this be done? The agent i got on the phone couldn't find a way - suggested just canceling it all out and re-booking - issue being Saver space on the international legs.
I guess my back-up option is to just change PDX-TLV to LAX-TLV and purchase with $$ the SEA-LAX leg
Looking for some ideas and help
I currently have two bookings (1k saver awards):
1: TLV-SEA (via FRA)
2: PDX-TLV (via SFO)
The first one was made back in September before the Award Ticket changes.
At this point I am trying to find a way to combine the two reservations into one so I can add in a "stopover" using the new excursionist perk.
Desired change:
TLV-SEA (via FRA) - No Change
SEA-LAX (excursionist perk)
LAX-SEA (via SFO) - Change PDX-SFO to LAX-SFO (same day)
I have found (online) saver availability on the SEA-LAX and LAX-SFO segments.
How can this be done? The agent i got on the phone couldn't find a way - suggested just canceling it all out and re-booking - issue being Saver space on the international legs.
I guess my back-up option is to just change PDX-TLV to LAX-TLV and purchase with $$ the SEA-LAX leg
#1507
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,461
Your only option is canceling and rebooking, but that only works if there's saver availability for the full itinerary.
#1508
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 26
Trying to book PLS-EWR-RDU for 2 adults and 2 children in Economy. If we book it as one trip (flights less than 24hrs apart) it wants 37,500 miles/pp but if the EWR-RDU is two days later it wants to charge another 25,000 for that segment. (The award miles needed are really high because the dates are over Thanksgiving).
Is there a way to book it as a single trip PLS-EWR on Friday and EWR-RDU Fri or Sat with the 37,500 miles/pp and then call and change the second segment EWR-RDU to Sunday without having to pay the additional 25,000 miles? If so when can the change be made (within 24 hrs? Will we have to pay the change fee of $75pp or the phone fee of $25/pp?)
Dollar wise the tickets would be $670 (M class) if two days apart or $636 as one oneway trip. My inlaws are buying us our tickets and would rather use miles (they are United Chase explorer cardholders and accumulated a lot of miles but haven't flown United recently and have no status and neither do we.
Is there a way to book it as a single trip PLS-EWR on Friday and EWR-RDU Fri or Sat with the 37,500 miles/pp and then call and change the second segment EWR-RDU to Sunday without having to pay the additional 25,000 miles? If so when can the change be made (within 24 hrs? Will we have to pay the change fee of $75pp or the phone fee of $25/pp?)
Dollar wise the tickets would be $670 (M class) if two days apart or $636 as one oneway trip. My inlaws are buying us our tickets and would rather use miles (they are United Chase explorer cardholders and accumulated a lot of miles but haven't flown United recently and have no status and neither do we.
#1509
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,856
Trying to book PLS-EWR-RDU for 2 adults and 2 children in Economy. If we book it as one trip (flights less than 24hrs apart) it wants 37,500 miles/pp but if the EWR-RDU is two days later it wants to charge another 25,000 for that segment. (The award miles needed are really high because the dates are over Thanksgiving). ...
#1511
Currently booked on international C award but one domestic in Y because of no availability at booking. The flight is now available in C. Will UA charge fee to get that leg changed to C?
thanks
fdw
thanks
fdw
#1512
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: United MP 1K, SPG Gold
Posts: 186
Why is UAs website terrible, and why do i have to wait an hour on phone , ugh
I made a change to an award itinerary last night for my wife on the united website. I picked out the new flight and paid the change fee and miles. Everything looked like it went through, but the reservation was never exchanged, as i got the "Please call United" message when i view my itinerary.
I've been on the phone with them for the last hour over lunch just to get them to cancel the old flight and ticket the new one for me, had to provide my credit card and security questions again. why cant the website just work? i feel like any time i do anything on the website, it involves me calling united up anyways, and worst part was that the flight never got ticketed. if its this tough for an experienced traveler i couldnt imagine the frustration for the kettles!!
I've been on the phone with them for the last hour over lunch just to get them to cancel the old flight and ticket the new one for me, had to provide my credit card and security questions again. why cant the website just work? i feel like any time i do anything on the website, it involves me calling united up anyways, and worst part was that the flight never got ticketed. if its this tough for an experienced traveler i couldnt imagine the frustration for the kettles!!
#1513
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: Star Alliance G*, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium,
Posts: 3,585
united.com v. aircanada.ca
You will have a very hard time convincing this FT that united.com is a terrible WEB site. For over a decade, I struggled with aircanada.ca which is certainly a candidate for this dubious honour. When I switched to united.com, it was a big improvement - better security features, seat selection, it tells you miles per segment, permits courtesy holds.............I could go on all day.
Your problem, Evident (ly) is you do not have status with UA. Once you do and you call the 1K desk, you will soon discover they have little or no wait times (versus 45 mn at AC). I very much doubt if you will feel the same way.
Your problem, Evident (ly) is you do not have status with UA. Once you do and you call the 1K desk, you will soon discover they have little or no wait times (versus 45 mn at AC). I very much doubt if you will feel the same way.
#1514
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: United MP 1K, SPG Gold
Posts: 186
You will have a very hard time convincing this FT that united.com is a terrible WEB site. For over a decade, I struggled with aircanada.ca which is certainly a candidate for this dubious honour. When I switched to united.com, it was a big improvement - better security features, seat selection, it tells you miles per segment, permits courtesy holds.............I could go on all day.
Your problem, Evident (ly) is you do not have status with UA. Once you do and you call the 1K desk, you will soon discover they have little or no wait times (versus 45 mn at AC). I very much doubt if you will feel the same way.
Your problem, Evident (ly) is you do not have status with UA. Once you do and you call the 1K desk, you will soon discover they have little or no wait times (versus 45 mn at AC). I very much doubt if you will feel the same way.
#1515
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: BAEC (Gold), SPG (Lifetime Plat), Star Alliance, One World, Virgin (Gold)
Posts: 211
Holding on for 60 minutes with or without status is not acceptable.
The shame is the airlines customer service teams don't realise this....
The shame is the airlines customer service teams don't realise this....