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wxguy Apr 30, 2023 12:54 pm

I recently cleared from E (Premium Economy) to I (Business) on NH from BKK-NRT, for 30 PlusPoints. It cleared right after applying for the upgrade, which was about six weeks out from the flight.

MileTrek Apr 30, 2023 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by nickab (Post 35211913)
Has anyone here ever been waitlisted from J to F and NOT cleared? If you didn't clear, were there empty seats in the F cabin on departure?

Yes for a friend of mine on LAX-HND last December. Unfortunately I can't recall if there empty seats but he was very pleased with "The Room" J product anyway. He could've asked about it at the check-in counter but I assumed it wasn't going to be successful if it didn't happen by T-24. Called 1K afterwards to get PPs back

ChazzaBazza May 2, 2023 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 35200064)
1. ORD-HND (on NH)
2. May 13
3. Z
4. Z --> O
5. 40 point
6. 6 weeks
7. 3 weeks

Love that we can now waitlist for NH and that it clears :) Z --> O on NH must be the best use of +P out there ;) followed by D --> O on LH

Sorry if this is a dumb question or has been answered before, how did you go Z--O on ANA with pp? I thought per United "The following ANA fare classes are eligible for PlusPoints upgrades: B, C, D, E, G, J, M, U and Y." Is there a way to do this while in Z??

wxguy May 2, 2023 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by ChazzaBazza (Post 35218807)
Sorry if this is a dumb question or has been answered before, how did you go Z--O on ANA with pp? I thought per United "The following ANA fare classes are eligible for PlusPoints upgrades: B, C, D, E, G, J, M, U and Y." Is there a way to do this while in Z??

My NH success last month was E => I (premium economy to biz, BKK-NRT) for 40 +P.

cfischer May 2, 2023 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by ChazzaBazza (Post 35218807)
Sorry if this is a dumb question or has been answered before, how did you go Z--O on ANA with pp? I thought per United "The following ANA fare classes are eligible for PlusPoints upgrades: B, C, D, E, G, J, M, U and Y." Is there a way to do this while in Z??

it works …

jcturnbull May 2, 2023 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 35213736)
I recently cleared from E (Premium Economy) to I (Business) on NH from BKK-NRT, for 30 PlusPoints. It cleared right after applying for the upgrade, which was about six weeks out from the flight.


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 35219187)
My NH success last month was E => I (premium economy to biz, BKK-NRT) for 40 +P.

Interesting we have two different DPs for +P price.

cfischer May 2, 2023 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by jcturnbull (Post 35219452)
Interesting we have two different DPs for +P price.

NH UGs are always 40 +Ps.

Lux Flyer May 3, 2023 4:04 am


Originally Posted by jcturnbull (Post 35219452)
Interesting we have two different DPs for +P price.

Was same person, so likely clarifying their own typo from the previous post. All NH/LH plus point upgrades are 40 PPs.


Originally Posted by ChazzaBazza (Post 35218807)
Sorry if this is a dumb question or has been answered before, how did you go Z--O on ANA with pp? I thought per United "The following ANA fare classes are eligible for PlusPoints upgrades: B, C, D, E, G, J, M, U and Y." Is there a way to do this while in Z??

The PlusPoints upgrade system with NH/LH appears to be a slightly modified version of the star alliance upgrade award system (using PP instead of miles obviously). Given Z is a valid booking code on NH for a SAUA, not really surprising if there was an oversight in adapting the system to work for PlusPoints upgrades and someone forgot to either add Z-fare being allowed in the official T&C, or forgot to take Z-fares out when the upgrade request system validates the booking code.

mherdeg May 4, 2023 11:25 am

Wanted to add a data point here. I had an NH J sector (HND-JFK) on a flight which was F6 O0, and waitlisted an upgrade about 3 weeks in advance with PlusPoints.

After applying the waitlist, the PNR on ANA's web site showed HND-JFK in J, then JFK-RDU in coach, then HND-JFK in O (waitlisted).

The waitlist cleared at about T-5 days and the flight became F5. After that, the NH PNR showed HND-JFK in J, then a JFK-RDU in coach (unchanged), then HND-JFK in O.

Viewing the PNR in this state, the NH web site showed a popup message "Since you have a duplicate reservation, this reservation can only be viewed. Please contact the travel agency through which the reservation was made to change your reservation and register your information. For ANA-operated flights, Online Check-in service is available from 24 hours before the departure time.(W_S01P04_0023)".

Indeed I could not edit the reso (no way to select seats on any sectors anymore once the upgrade had cleared). Maybe I could have called NH and had them delete the J sector and reorder the segments; I didn't try since hold times are 2+ hr.

At OLCI I was offered to check in for my first sector (xxx-HND) but was not offered to check in for HND-JFK.

I think this may explain the stories upthread where people had to insist at checkin that they really had a confirmed upgrade and get desk agents to issue the right boarding pass, etc.

Unfortunately I have had a bad cold this whole week and am unable to fly the trip :( so I don't know what would have happened at checkin but assume things would have worked out fine. Ah well, NH F another day.

cfischer May 4, 2023 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by mherdeg (Post 35224064)
Wanted to add a data point here. I had an NH J sector (HND-JFK) on a flight which was F6 O0, and waitlisted an upgrade about 3 weeks in advance with PlusPoints.

After applying the waitlist, the PNR on ANA's web site showed HND-JFK in J, then JFK-RDU in coach, then HND-JFK in O (waitlisted).

The waitlist cleared at about T-5 days and the flight became F5. After that, the NH PNR showed HND-JFK in J, then a JFK-RDU in coach (unchanged), then HND-JFK in O.

Viewing the PNR in this state, the NH web site showed a popup message "Since you have a duplicate reservation, this reservation can only be viewed. Please contact the travel agency through which the reservation was made to change your reservation and register your information. For ANA-operated flights, Online Check-in service is available from 24 hours before the departure time.(W_S01P04_0023)".

Indeed I could not edit the reso (no way to select seats on any sectors anymore once the upgrade had cleared). Maybe I could have called NH and had them delete the J sector and reorder the segments; I didn't try since hold times are 2+ hr.

At OLCI I was offered to check in for my first sector (xxx-HND) but was not offered to check in for HND-JFK.

I think this may explain the stories upthread where people had to insist at checkin that they really had a confirmed upgrade and get desk agents to issue the right boarding pass, etc.

Unfortunately I have had a bad cold this whole week and am unable to fly the trip :( so I don't know what would have happened at checkin but assume things would have worked out fine. Ah well, NH F another day.

Strange. For me it showed only 1 sector with 'UG waitlisted' as the status and Z confirmed. When it cleared it showed it as 'O' confirmed ... never a 2nd sector.

docray1000 May 18, 2023 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by forrestgjf (Post 35109315)
Xyzzy This info is super helpful! Big thanks!:tu::tu:

Unfortunately, the request form kept telling me that “We have found more than one reservation that matches the traveler information you provided.”

I left the ticket number field blank as per some of the previous threads suggested. Any idea why I got this error message?


Did you manage to get your upgrade. I have the same issue and nobody is able to address it. Bought in E class on ANA and trying to upgrade but get the same message. In fact in my case its even morr bizarre. asks me to contact LH. Have no clue why. This is not a LH flight. Ticket bought on ANA and entirely operated on ANA metal. Any thoughts??

Request a PlusPoints Upgrade Award

We have found more than one reservation that matches the traveler information you provided.

Please provide more information in your request. If you do not have additional information or have already provided it, please call Lufthansa and request your booking code. Call 1-800-645-3880 within the U.S., elsewhere visit lufthansa.com for local contact information.

abcx Jun 12, 2023 2:06 pm

I searched the thread but couldn't find an answer - how does one search for or see ANA upgrade space in advance, similar to looking for PZ on UA using expert mode? Is it even possible? Looking to upgrade from Y to C.

Thanks

cfischer Jun 12, 2023 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by abcx (Post 35326336)
I searched the thread but couldn't find an answer - how does one search for or see ANA upgrade space in advance, similar to looking for PZ on UA using expert mode? Is it even possible? Looking to upgrade from Y to C.

Thanks

Business award (I) available on NH = it will clear immediately. You can waitlist on NH ... works well.

abcx Jun 12, 2023 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 35326829)
Business award (I) available on NH = it will clear immediately. You can waitlist on NH ... works well.


Works well means it usually clears? NH doesn’t have 30-40 people on the upgrade waitlist the way UA does?

cfischer Jun 13, 2023 5:31 am


Originally Posted by abcx (Post 35327336)
Works well means it usually clears? NH doesn’t have 30-40 people on the upgrade waitlist the way UA does?

correct


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