757-200 vs 767-400Er
Mar 7, 2016, 2:44 pm
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Mar 7, 2016, 3:12 pm
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When EWR is on a 90 minute ground stop because of thunderstorms in mid-July, diversions happen. I've been there, and it's not only the TATL 757s.
Mar 7, 2016, 3:16 pm
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Iad - mad 30/6
I can switch to the 777 as my final flight destination is not MAD, but LIS and I can connect in different locations. stay/switch?
Mar 7, 2016, 3:20 pm
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I would avoid a 757 on IAD-MAD. IAD is further on TATL from EWR so there could be diversions. Plus it's been mentioned on these forums that the 757s are getting beat up such as broken footwells and slower AVOD in J. The 763 will have a new interior.
Mar 7, 2016, 3:22 pm
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Is that supposed to be sarcasm? Of course 757s on most TATL will be disproportionately impacted by weather/operational factors as they are toward the end of their range... same as a 764 would be on ATH-EWR or a 777 on HKG-EWR. I think you're misconstruing the point I'm making... it's not a defense of 757s on TATL routes, but a statement of fact that summertime 757 diversions are usually caused by different circumstances.
When EWR is on a 90 minute ground stop because of thunderstorms in mid-July, diversions happen. I've been there, and it's not only the TATL 757s.
When EWR is on a 90 minute ground stop because of thunderstorms in mid-July, diversions happen. I've been there, and it's not only the TATL 757s.
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Mar 7, 2016, 5:41 pm
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By 777 I assume you mean IAD-LHR-LIS (with LHR-LIS on TP) - I wouldn't add 4 hours (2 hour flight + 2 hour LHR connection) just to avoid a 752.
Mar 7, 2016, 5:54 pm
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...what I would worry about is the flight back - many of the 757's will have to make a fuel stop as they can't make it all the way to Newark or Dulles - and the chance to misconnect increases dramatically....
If you can find another flight on a wide body I would change - but don't do it for the seat....
If you can find another flight on a wide body I would change - but don't do it for the seat....
Regarding it being a narrowbody, I prefer to look at the forward cabin as the upper deck of a 747. I'm always amused when people pooh pooh a 752 and then rave about the similarly-sized upper deck
f a 747.
Mar 7, 2016, 5:55 pm
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I would have preferred the 767 traveling alone in the center seat, but there's two of you.
I also like the smaller cabin and service.
However, I've flown EWR-TXL-EWR plenty of times in summer and winter and I've never had a stop for fuel so it never factored in to my booking.
I also like the smaller cabin and service.
However, I've flown EWR-TXL-EWR plenty of times in summer and winter and I've never had a stop for fuel so it never factored in to my booking.
Mar 7, 2016, 6:14 pm
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Diversions are few and far between. During the summer -- as pointed out above -- usually occur because of thunderstorms. In that situation there really isn't much difference between the 757 and widebody aircraft. If the airports are closed or severely backed up you'll divert...
Regarding it being a narrowbody, I prefer to look at the forward cabin as the upper deck of a 747. I'm always amused when people pooh pooh a 752 and then rave about the similarly-sized upper deckf a 747.
Regarding it being a narrowbody, I prefer to look at the forward cabin as the upper deck of a 747. I'm always amused when people pooh pooh a 752 and then rave about the similarly-sized upper deck
f a 747.
Mar 7, 2016, 6:26 pm
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Isn't there a nonstop IAD-LIS flight? It is on a 752, so if you are fine with being on a 752 then I would take that.
Mar 7, 2016, 6:40 pm
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The 757 is fine, but I've always felt like I was on a p.s. transcon. People running up through the cabin to use lavatory, all kinds of stuff going on with the crew pacing through the aisle, the even shorter seats than 744 upper deck, noise, etc. A 8-9hr TATL hop is fine, but I couldn't imagine being in a 757 BF cabin for a 15 hour flight to Sydney or Hong Kong. That just feels oh so wrong.
The 744 upper-deck OTOH is perfect for that, however.
Mar 7, 2016, 8:02 pm
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Oh that changes everything. To me the only pro to the 752 are less connections. If MAD isn't your final destination, then I wouldn't take it. I would call United and tell them you booked IAD-MAD-LIS because you wanted to avoid the 752 on the IAD-LIS direct. Now that IAD-MAD, is also a 752, you'd like to be put on the direct flight. I'm sure they'll have a problem with that at first (since the schedule change isn't significant) but hopefully you can convince an agent.
By 777 I assume you mean IAD-LHR-LIS (with LHR-LIS on TP) - I wouldn't add 4 hours (2 hour flight + 2 hour LHR connection) just to avoid a 752.
By 777 I assume you mean IAD-LHR-LIS (with LHR-LIS on TP) - I wouldn't add 4 hours (2 hour flight + 2 hour LHR connection) just to avoid a 752.
Took 4 different representatives, until I found a nice one. a little convincing and bumped to the direct flight, without having to pay the 17.5k x 2 miles difference as no saves business class available or change fees.
Mar 7, 2016, 8:37 pm
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I like the single seat on 767-400 when traveling by myself but if traveling with someone 757 is fine. Lack of individual air vent on 767-400 is annoying.
Mar 7, 2016, 9:19 pm
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The 757 BF and 747 UD are incomparable; there's more than a foot difference in cabin width! Super cramped and short seats angled toward the window vs the straight seats with window storage boxes is a world of a difference. Plus the IFE catalog difference and aisles where two humans can reasonably pass each other.