Will UA run a ghost ship to OGG?
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Will UA run a ghost ship to OGG?
Tonight's UA364 SFO-OGG is a 757-300 booked with about 50 pax total — about 7 in first, about 40 in coach. It's due to depart at 8:05pm and after a 90 min turnaround in OGG it returns as a 12:55am OGG-SFO.
Of those pax, I have met at least 5 who are on tonight's UA1213 ORD-SFO, a very full 747 which has experienced a 2+ hr mechanical delay and is now due to land at 8:25pm (and be at the gate about 8:40pm). I heard from a flight attendant on board that they heard from someone in operations that ORD-SFO has as many as 40 pax all connecting to SFO-OGG (but I'm not sure if that's true or if they misunderstood).
Given the tight turn the SFO-OGG flight has in its schedule, I am guessing that UA is going to let the aircraft go out on time or depart early and just cope with all the misconnecting passengers.
What is the smallest number of people you have ever seen on a flight to Hawaii?
Of those pax, I have met at least 5 who are on tonight's UA1213 ORD-SFO, a very full 747 which has experienced a 2+ hr mechanical delay and is now due to land at 8:25pm (and be at the gate about 8:40pm). I heard from a flight attendant on board that they heard from someone in operations that ORD-SFO has as many as 40 pax all connecting to SFO-OGG (but I'm not sure if that's true or if they misunderstood).
Given the tight turn the SFO-OGG flight has in its schedule, I am guessing that UA is going to let the aircraft go out on time or depart early and just cope with all the misconnecting passengers.
What is the smallest number of people you have ever seen on a flight to Hawaii?
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Tonight's UA364 SFO-OGG is a 757-300 booked with about 50 pax total — about 7 in first, about 40 in coach. It's due to depart at 8:05pm and after a 90 min turnaround in OGG it returns as a 12:55am OGG-SFO.
Of those pax, I have met at least 5 who are on tonight's UA1213 ORD-SFO, a very full 747 which has experienced a 2+ hr mechanical delay and is now due to land at 8:25pm (and be at the gate about 8:40pm). I heard from a flight attendant on board that they heard from someone in operations that ORD-SFO has as many as 40 pax all connecting to SFO-OGG (but I'm not sure if that's true or if they misunderstood).
Given the tight turn the SFO-OGG flight has in its schedule, I am guessing that UA is going to let the aircraft go out on time or depart early and just cope with all the misconnecting passengers.
What is the smallest number of people you have ever seen on a flight to Hawaii?
Of those pax, I have met at least 5 who are on tonight's UA1213 ORD-SFO, a very full 747 which has experienced a 2+ hr mechanical delay and is now due to land at 8:25pm (and be at the gate about 8:40pm). I heard from a flight attendant on board that they heard from someone in operations that ORD-SFO has as many as 40 pax all connecting to SFO-OGG (but I'm not sure if that's true or if they misunderstood).
Given the tight turn the SFO-OGG flight has in its schedule, I am guessing that UA is going to let the aircraft go out on time or depart early and just cope with all the misconnecting passengers.
What is the smallest number of people you have ever seen on a flight to Hawaii?
Least crowded flight I've been on in the last 14 years.
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The OGG-SFO looks a little bit better than 1/2 booked, not counting NSRAs on waitlist. I didn't even know UA had a post-midnight departure on Saturdays (I guess Sunday, really...).
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J and F were pretty full - total boarding time was like 5 minutes - never seen this flight so empty...
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Yeah looks pretty empty on flight status..and still shows on time. Flight in from ORD arriving at a nearby gate but whether they will hold is anyone's guess.
On a side note I saw something I've never seen before. On the upgrade list for UA 364 it says:
United First®: 24 | Booked: 7 | Checked In: 11
Something new every day..
On a side note I saw something I've never seen before. On the upgrade list for UA 364 it says:
United First®: 24 | Booked: 7 | Checked In: 11
Something new every day..
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Edit: ok, they offloaded us. Guess they intend to run the SFO-OGG on time. I now see 7 pax confirmed in First — it's possible that most or all of the F pax who were offloaded were connecting revenue pax and it's just NRSAs on this SFO-OGG? Very interesting.
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Correct. Ground staff at OGG is amazing. I witnessed a 45 minute total turn last year out of OGG. (t helped that the loads in both directions were approximately 50%).
To answer OP's question, in 1990 I flew on a UA redeye out of OGG to LAX with only 12 Passengers on board.
To answer OP's question, in 1990 I flew on a UA redeye out of OGG to LAX with only 12 Passengers on board.
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I once flew on a UA 747SP that was 0F, 0J, 0Y. Repositioning flight SFO-JFK, with me and three pilots in the cockpit. T/O to FL410 in (what felt like) seconds.
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SFO-OGG isn't that crowded at all. You can see most of the evening flights are very empty. You can definitely make an argument to force the connection at OGG on the way to HNL.