TATL 2h 20m turn at ORD: UA949 >> UA952, can United execute?
Jun 28, 2015, 4:17 pm
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TATL 2h 20m turn at ORD: UA949 >> UA952, can United execute?
Someone in Willis ops center thinks they can turn UA 949 into UA 952 tomorrow without blowing the schedule. 
949 arrives ORD at 3:15 pm.
952 departs at 5:35 pm.
Do you think that they can unload, clear customs, tow the plane from Intl. terminal to Terminal 1, cater, fuel, board, and depart in 2 hours, 20 minutes?
I'll be able to give a firsthand report - but am happy to hear what the sages predict will happen.
949 arrives ORD at 3:15 pm.
952 departs at 5:35 pm.
Do you think that they can unload, clear customs, tow the plane from Intl. terminal to Terminal 1, cater, fuel, board, and depart in 2 hours, 20 minutes?
I'll be able to give a firsthand report - but am happy to hear what the sages predict will happen.
Jun 28, 2015, 4:27 pm
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Jun 28, 2015, 4:33 pm
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An airline with above-average, even average operations, wouldn't find that too difficult. But this is UA so anything goes.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Jun 28, 2015, 4:43 pm
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Jun 28, 2015, 5:15 pm
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I've been keeping an eye on 952 for the past week, and most of the time it was turned from 929 or 908, providing > 4 hours to get the aircraft ready for departure.
Of course, that didn't stop a series of mechanical delays and one particularly bad night when they returned to the gate and cancelled after midnight.
Who knows, maybe if they keep the aircraft cycling faster, there will be less downtime for things to break ?
Of course, that didn't stop a series of mechanical delays and one particularly bad night when they returned to the gate and cancelled after midnight.
Who knows, maybe if they keep the aircraft cycling faster, there will be less downtime for things to break ?
Jun 28, 2015, 7:34 pm
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That exact same aircraft was turned around in less than 2 hours for an early departure only a few days ago in LHR.
Yes, that didn't include a tow between terminals, but even with the tow, 2 hours 20 mins is very, very realistic.
Of course, whether UA can actually manage to get their ducks in enough of a line in this particular case to make it happen is a different question altogether...
Yes, that didn't include a tow between terminals, but even with the tow, 2 hours 20 mins is very, very realistic.
Of course, whether UA can actually manage to get their ducks in enough of a line in this particular case to make it happen is a different question altogether...
Jun 28, 2015, 7:38 pm
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That exact same aircraft was turned around in less than 2 hours for an early departure only a few days ago in LHR.
Yes, that didn't include a tow between terminals, but even with the tow, 2 hours 20 mins is very, very realistic.
Of course, whether UA can actually manage to get their ducks in enough of a line in this particular case to make it happen is a different question altogether...
Yes, that didn't include a tow between terminals, but even with the tow, 2 hours 20 mins is very, very realistic.
Of course, whether UA can actually manage to get their ducks in enough of a line in this particular case to make it happen is a different question altogether...
Jun 28, 2015, 10:43 pm
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I would guess you had the wrong day, but Sunday's 949 departed 14 minutes late and arrived 6 minutes late, so I have no idea what you're referring to...
Jun 29, 2015, 12:08 am
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The flight in question isn't due to leave LHR for another 6 1/2 hours. The inbound flight from EWR to LHR is currently due to arrive 10 minutes early.
I would guess you had the wrong day, but Sunday's 949 departed 14 minutes late and arrived 6 minutes late, so I have no idea what you're referring to...
I would guess you had the wrong day, but Sunday's 949 departed 14 minutes late and arrived 6 minutes late, so I have no idea what you're referring to...
Another similar case is UA991 (CDG-SFO) and UA990(SFO-CDG). Normally UA991 arrives in SFO and 90 minutes later, goes back to CDG as UA990. There is no terminal change in SFO though.
Jun 29, 2015, 1:08 am
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90 minutes is a fast but realistic time to turn a widebody if you have everything planned and lined up, perhaps a little longer for an A380 or a 747. I stayed on board a TK 777 when they cleaned, provisioned and re-fuelled for an onward tag flight and it wasn't even 90 minutes.
Of course ORD is an inefficient airport as planes depart from different terminals than where they arrive so that will waste half an hour or so.
Of course ORD is an inefficient airport as planes depart from different terminals than where they arrive so that will waste half an hour or so.
Jun 29, 2015, 7:21 am
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What about :50 at EWR for a sCO 777?? 
Hoping my 90 min cnx at LHR doesn't turn into a mad dash because our inbound is scheduled to come in from PVG.
Yesterday it showed inbound from TLV so hopefully something gets updated or there's a lot of wind pushing along on both legs.
Hoping my 90 min cnx at LHR doesn't turn into a mad dash because our inbound is scheduled to come in from PVG.
Yesterday it showed inbound from TLV so hopefully something gets updated or there's a lot of wind pushing along on both legs.