Ari

Thursday to Monday ORD-OGG-ORD nonstop; no flexibility. Early December. Got P on the way back on Monday, but P0 on the way out on Thursday and ponied up the shockingly low extra $65 for Z on that flight. Some screwy pricing or something; P and Z are usually more than $100 apart on an 8-hour flight, so no complaints.

mander

There is definitely some different pricing going on for that route. It used to be that you could get P easily if you booked far enough out. Now not as much -- especially for December

CPLD

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about the overall experience, but seeing that you say it is typical of domestic first, aside from lie-flat seats, that tells me a lot.

Thanks!

findark

Booking that far in advance is going to burn you (assuming Ari is booking for December 2018). Also of note, there are many different P fares and Z fares, and the highest P fare and lowest Z fare are not usually that far apart.

txaggiemiles

pkerr

pkerr

On a slightly related note... my 757 in F/J from DEN - LIH. do they supply headphones / ear buds or do I need to bring my own?
Thanks

IAH-OIL-TRASH

airline101

Honestly every flight should have lie flats to/from Hawaii (HNL).

jp12687

Ewr to HNL the crew was awful. The food wasn’t good.

we did get the new Big saks pillow and the nice blanket.

we packed our own food and Ann FA gave us trouble with it.

im also a 1k and my wife is a gold and they refused to take our meal orders together so my wife did not get the choice she wanted.

they also did both meal services in the first 4.5 hours of the flight.

for what they charge in dollars and miles the service is god awful. That level of service is “fine” on a 1.5hr flight. But this flight pushes 11hrs. It’s longer than most EUROPE flights.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

I guess you don't travel much to Europe in Business. United charges (on average) far less for EWR-HNL than it does for EWR-Europe. United realizes far less revenue per seat-mile to Hawaii than to/from Europe. And you expect to be treated better on EWR-Hawaii solely because it's a longer flight than EWR-Europe? There's more at play than what you pay, which (contrary to what you think) wasn't that much. You're getting a bargain for the distance. Not excusing bad service, but you're living in LaLA land if you expect Polaris-level service. It's marketed as domestic First food/service, nothing else. What did you pay for an 11-hour trip to Hawaii in a lie-flat seat? I'm flying HNL-LAX-EWR-HNL all in lie flat for about $2k r.t next month. Never flew for work in BusinessFirst to Europe that cheap. There's a reason Polaris isn't offered on Hawaii flights from IAD, ORD, IAH, and EWR. I've paid (well, my employer) once $12,000 for less than a 10-hour r.t flight to London from Houston, averaged $6-8k. I'm guessing you paid nowhere near those numbers.

Only 1Ks get the 1st choice. Are you saying that (as a 1K), you should get what you want and then your Gold wife should also get what she wants, potentially taking the choice from another 1K or GS? If you get to Million Miler status, you can nominate her as your companion 1K and she can get her choice, too.

jp12687

I routinely fly to asia from Newark which is twice the physical distance. Often that ticket is about 5500-6000 round trip.

this was a little over 3 so in a distance to dollar point of view it lines up.

either way I’m not asking for Polaris service. I am asking for better than the crap domestic service we got.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

Twice the physical distance? "Dollar point of view it lines up."? I guess you're 1) not a geography professor or 2) a mathematician. On average, UA realizes more from their Polaris routes than from their Hawaii routes per seat-mile. That's just fact. It is because of that fact that UA does not want to treat you like the royalty and/or provide Polaris service. You have a choice of airlines. I'd suggest Hawaiian out of JFK.

Kacee

There have certainly been lots of complaints about UA's service in F EWR-HNL, particularly the inadequacy of the meals given the length of the flights, and I doubt it's gotten better with the recent meal cuts. I believe also that's going to be a senior EWR-based sCO crew, which can mean meal with one drink service and disappear into the galley for the rest of the flight.

You're mostly paying for the lie-flat seat, which is not an insignificant feature for a flight of that length.

jp12687