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Old Aug 25, 2015, 6:19 pm
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January 2024 -- Moved to Chase.com and renamed Pay Your Self Back
Noted -- The Chase Annual Fee had moved in 2011, now the flight reimbursement has moved and UA Choices site closed.
  • Sign into your account here
  • Click on "More" on the top right corner of your account page
  • Select "Rewards dashboard" from the menu
  • Choose "Use MileagePlus miles with Pay Yourself Back" on the top navigation bar
The Choices Points program was started in 2006 and is a method for using Chase MP branded earned miles (RDMs) to "pay" for a UA ticket charged to the credit card. These tickets are normal paid tickets and fully earn miles and elite credit. Statement credit redemption is at 1 cpm. (minimums applied, maximum is ticket cost)

Additionally, you can "pay" your Chase annual card fee. (rate varies, in 2020/2021 it has been increased to 1.5 cpm)

Note flight miles and miles from other sources are not eligible. Signup bonuses have qualified in the past.

There were other features originally, such as purchasing EQMs, but that has been discontinued.

To redeem or see balance, go to www.united.com/Choices

MileagePlus Choices® Terms and Conditions Aug 2021

Important: Your participation in MileagePlus Choices® ("Choices") is governed by (i) the following terms and conditions and (ii) the MileagePlus® Program Rules found on united.com and expressly incorporated herein by reference (collectively the "Choices Terms and Conditions"). It is your responsibility to read and understand all of them. The Choices Terms and Conditions cannot be superseded or changed, except in writing from United Airlines, or any of its affiliates, (collectively, "United").

General conditions
Choices is offered at the discretion of United and United has the right to terminate Choices, in whole or in part, or to change the Choices Terms and Conditions, benefits and conditions of participation, in whole or in part, at any time, with or without notice, even though changes may affect the value of benefits already accumulated.

"You" and "your" means the primary Cardmember on the MileagePlus credit card account and whose MileagePlus account number is associated with the account ("Cardmember"). "MileagePlus credit card" includes United branded credit cards issued by Chase Bank USA, N.A. ("Chase") that accrue MileagePlus award miles.

Award miles accrued with your MileagePlus credit card and transferred to your MileagePlus account based on eligible card activity, including, but not limited to, credit card purchases, Chase promotional offers, and anniversary renewals, are available for use in Choices. Award miles earned (i) for flight activity, (ii) through MileagePlus partners, (iii) for Chase non-credit card activity including, but not limited to, debit/check card purchases or home equity advances, and (iv) for activity that is rewarded by third parties as bonuses associated with use of the MileagePlus credit card will be credited to your MileagePlus award miles balance but are not eligible for use in Choices. Your Choices balance is a subset of your MileagePlus award miles balance and not a separate balance. Your Choices balance can be found by visiting www.united.com/choices. You must have previously earned award miles with your MileagePlus credit card and be a current Cardmember to be able to login. Also, if you close your MileagePlus credit card account, you will forfeit your Choices balance.

Award miles accrued with your MileagePlus credit card will continue to be reflected in your award miles balance. In addition to the options available to MileagePlus members, Choices offers more ways to use miles that are exclusive to Cardmembers. Any Choices activity using award miles will result in a reduction of your MileagePlus award miles balance. You cannot have a greater Choices balance than your MileagePlus award miles balance.

The MileagePlus account number used for both Choices and the credit card account where the MileagePlus award miles were earned must be the same. You must be the primary Cardmember to use Choices. You cannot use your award miles through Choices for a statement credit on another person's MileagePlus credit card account.

Choices Airfare Statement Credit
To use Choices for an airfare statement credit, purchase any United ticket on united.com with your MileagePlus credit card. Flights purchased through any other source, such as United General Reservations, United Vacations, travel agencies or other travel websites, are not eligible. When the purchase posts to your credit card account, login at www.united.com/chase to use award miles earned with your MileagePlus credit card for an airfare statement credit against that charge.

No blackouts means any flight available on united.com can be purchased for Choices any day of the year. No inventory restriction indicates that any open seat on any available flight on united.com is eligible for Choices. Award miles earned with your MileagePlus credit card can be used against a ticket purchased on united.com through Choices for an airfare statement credit up to the full cost of the ticket.

Airfare statement credit requested may not exceed the ticket purchase amount charged to your MileagePlus credit card. Partial statement credits are allowed with a minimum of 5,000 award miles. However, only one statement credit request can be made per unique transaction.

You must submit your request within 90 days of the ticket purchase date.

Award miles are deducted at time of request. Please allow 5-7 days for the credit to appear on your credit card account. Since award miles earned with your MileagePlus credit card are reflected in your MileagePlus account balance, any activity through Choices will result in a reduction in your MileagePlus account balance. Use of award miles through Choices for an airfare statement credit made on or near the end of your monthly billing cycle may take up to one billing cycle to appear on your monthly billing statement. You are responsible for making your monthly credit card payment according to the terms and conditions of your account to avoid any late fees or finance charges.

For rejected requests, award miles initially deducted will be reversed.

E-mail confirmation will be sent to you to indicate a successful redemption and statement credit posting to your credit card account.

The MileagePlus account number used for both Choices and the credit card account where the MileagePlus award miles were earned must be the same. You must be the primary MileagePlus Cardmember to use Choices. You cannot use your award miles through Choices for an airfare statement credit on another person's MileagePlus credit card account.

Airline ticket changes, cancellations and refunds are subject to the rules of the airline ticket.

Award miles used in Choices cannot be returned or re-deposited by you.

MileagePlus and Chase reserve the right to reverse Choices air statement credits where the original ticket purchase is refunded. Award miles used will be re-deposited in your account and the Choices airfare statement credit will be reversed on your MileagePlus credit card account. In the event a reversal is required, an administrative fee of 2,500 award miles may be deducted from your MileagePlus account and will appear on your MileagePlus statement as an adjustment.

The number of award miles required depends upon the cost of the airline ticket including all taxes and fees and the amount of the airfare statement credit requested. You are responsible for all associated taxes, airport security charges, baggage fees, fuel surcharges and other usage fees required for travel. These charges will be included in the overall calculation to determine the number of award miles required for the airfare statement credit. The number of award miles required is subject to change at any time without notice.

Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement
Current Cardmembers may apply award miles through Choices towards one Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement per MileagePlus credit card account per 12-month period ("Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement"). Award miles used for an Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement cannot be returned or re-deposited.

Cardmember must submit an Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement request within 90 days of the annual membership fee transaction date on your credit card account.

The amount of the Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement requested may not exceed the annual membership fee billed to your monthly billing statement. One Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement request (full or partial) per 12 month period is allowed per credit card account.

Award miles are deducted from your MileagePlus account at the time you make your request. Please allow 5-7 days for the Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement to appear on your credit card account. Requests for an Annual Membership Fee Reimbursement made on or near the end of your monthly billing cycle may take up to one billing cycle to appear on your monthly billing statement. You are still responsible for making your monthly credit card payment according to the terms and conditions of your account to avoid any late fees or finance charges.

For rejected requests, award miles initially deducted will be reversed.

E-mail confirmation will be sent to you to indicate a successful redemption and statement credit posting to your credit card account.
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Old Dec 11, 2023, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by pampa
However, now we want to change the same flight to a later date, and for some reason we get US$600 back. I we do that, would that be flagged as some kind of activity against the rules?
I know this isn’t the exact same thing, but I always thought these transactions only worked in one direction. However, I recently had miles removed from my UA account for the Chase 2x ticket bonus for a flight that was refunded. They may not figure yours out but with my luck I would get charged the $600 and not get my miles back and UA would tell me to Chase who would tell me to call UA…
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Old Dec 12, 2023, 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by pampa
Ok, I have an interesting situation. I changed my flight last week and had to pay US$600 for that change. I paid with Chase/United and I'm getting it reimbursed using Mileageplus choice eligible miles. I started this process on Friday and it's still going through.

However, now we want to change the same flight to a later date, and for some reason we get US$600 back. I we do that, would that be flagged as some kind of activity against the rules? It would look like we did a flight change for 600 dollars, ask for money back using choice miles, and then changed the flight to get US$600 back.

To be fair, the whole ticket was paid with cash so far, and the new change moves the return flight to a different day.
Several years ago (if you made me guess I'd say 2015) I had a similar situation that had multiple charges/refunds associated with it where for a number of months I was double credited (I got the benefit of the choices redemption and also got a refund). Suddenly, it was audited and they did me one worse of both re-charging me the dollar amount and reversing the choices redemption. It took me hours upon hours to get the dollar refund back on my statement and involved an insane amount of documentation from my end. I had to fax things! In 2015-ish! It was such an onerous experience that I nearly gave up. Now, I don't apply the choices redemption until I've taken the flight(s) (I usually only book 2-3 weeks out, so I don't risk much in that).

That could all be very different now but United/Chase have probably become better at this audit process, not worse.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 4:23 pm
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United credit cards can now cover flights with miles(not Money+Miles)

I believe this is the right place instead of the Chase sub forum as its related to miles. If its in the wrong place then by all means a mod can move it.
Chase has added a new Pay yourself back option on the United Miles earning cards. I have it on my Gateway and others have it on their Club Infinites.

The fine print reads as" Includes United airfare tickets purchased on United.com or the United mobile app with your MileagePlus® credit card. Flights purchased through any other source, such as United General Reservations, United Vacations, travel agencies or other travel websites, are not eligible."

Even on the Club the redemption is 1cpp so it matches Money + Miles but it wouldn't have the limitations that has. So you can fully cover the entire cost with miles.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 4:30 pm
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Cool option, but you'd want to be sure you couldnt beat doing a regular mileage redemption on ua.com
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawkeyefan
Cool option, but you'd want to be sure you couldnt beat doing a regular mileage redemption on ua.com
I mean if you are working towards MM status then you would use this since you dont get BIS miles for award bookings, you do for a Money+MIles booking which is what this is essentially but are able to cover taxes and everything.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 5:08 pm
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Isn’t that essentially a rebranding of the old “Choices” feature?

Looks like the website for Choices now directs people to PYB.

https://choices.unitedmileageplus.com
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 5:12 pm
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The old becomes the new.


This is the standard Chase statement reimbursement using UA miles / Choice Points --- it has long been available -- 2006

It has just moved from United.com to Chase.com --- same program.
The Chase card annual fee moved 2 years ago, now the airfare has moved.

Important to note -- flight miles are not eligible just miles earned by using the Chase card. Note Chase has this program for other Chase cards.
The 2006 program had many other features -- such as EQMs for miles, .... but in recent years it has just been card AF (at a more generous 1.5 cpm) and UA tickets

Originally Posted by FlyerAVL
I mean if you are working towards MM status then you would use this since you dont get BIS miles for award bookings, you do for a Money+MIles booking which is what this is essentially but are able to cover taxes and everything.
Similar but Money+Miles does not require having a Chase card and allows use of miles earned from flying.
What is the "Book with Money and Miles" option ?

Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 6, 2024 at 6:30 pm Reason: Flight miles may count, this is a change
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 5:33 pm
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I agree the Club Infinite card PYB on the annual fee is a good deal I hope sticks around.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 6:18 pm
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With the old Choices program, only miles earned with the Chase credit cards were eligible to be used as reimbursement. The new PYB arrangement does not appear to have that limitation.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by sannmann
With the old Choices program, only miles earned with the Chase credit cards were eligible to be used as reimbursement. The new PYB arrangement does not appear to have that limitation.
Agree in reading, I don't see that limitation but that is a surprising enhancement. Perhaps for most, most of their miles are Chase earned. It was a confusing aspect of the old program.
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Old Jan 6, 2024, 10:08 pm
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So if one can get better than one cent per mile (cpm) (1 cpm) on redemptions, it's better to save one's redeemable miles (RDM) for that, unless absolutely trying to minimize award redemptions for lifetime mileage accrual purposes.
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Old Jan 13, 2024, 10:57 am
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I don't get it! I have the Presidential Plus card but don't see any qualifying purchases for "Pay Yourself Back" but have plenty of purchases on the United website or app. Anyone else having this issue?
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Old Jan 13, 2024, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Guy
I don't get it! I have the Presidential Plus card but don't see any qualifying purchases for "Pay Yourself Back" but have plenty of purchases on the United website or app. Anyone else having this issue?
There is limited frame for re-reimbursement

  • United MileagePlus® miles may be redeemed for a statement credit using Pay Yourself Back for eligible purchases made within the 90 days before the redemption request date.
  • Only redemptions using Pay Yourself Back against the following purchases made with your credit card will qualify: airfare tickets purchased on United.com or the United mobile app and the prior payment of your annual fee. Flights purchased through any other source, such as United General Reservations, United Vacations, travel agencies or other travel websites, are not eligible.
  • Categories, eligible merchants, and purchase transaction eligibility may change from time to time without notice.
  • Miles redeemed for statement credits cannot be returned or re-deposited.
  • Redemptions require a minimum of 1 mile and a maximum of 12 transactions selected in a single order.
  • The number of miles will be provided to you when you select your statement credit amount prior to redemption using Pay Yourself Back.
  • Redemption values may be changed at any time.
  • Statement credits will post to the card account within 3 business days of a request to redeem and will appear on the monthly Chase credit card billing statement within 1-2 billing cycles.
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Old Jan 13, 2024, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
There is limited frame for re-reimbursement
Thanks for the info! Have a bunch of united.com purchases in the past 90 days that should qualify.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by mfirst
this "choices" thing looks new and interesting - and I have had both UA CC for years (dont ask why.....) - I need to better understand this..... have we discussed this anywhere?

-m

ok, looked into the choices - interesting concept....wonder what others think?

$300 flight (keeping the math simple):
3300 points
600 points (used UA card at 2x)
5000 points from "winning" MilePlay

8900 points = $89 in refund

actual cost: $211

hmmmmm
I get this math, but can anyone confirm that the 2-4x miles Chase gives for United purchases does not get clawed back after the airfare charge is refunded using Choices/Pay Yourself Back? (In my case, I have a promo for 6x miles on United and another promo for travel spend, so if this is negated by using PYB, it changes the math significantly.)

Thanks in advance.
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