Feb 2, 2017, 7:07 pm
How many are REALLY leaving UA?
Oct 8, 2015, 2:21 am
#256
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: UA 1k 1mil. Marriott Titanium
Posts: 202
I live 30 min from EWR so the coneinvence of direct flights and a UA hub is the main reason why I fly UA. I know people are leaving UA for FF reasons but how are the products at the airlines? The plane, food, employees, etc?
I'm debating if its worth wild to switch and always have to take connecting flights for my routes.
I'm debating if its worth wild to switch and always have to take connecting flights for my routes.
Oct 8, 2015, 11:26 am
#257
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: SYD; Central Coast, NSW
Programs: UA, 1K 2MM
Posts: 947
Oct 8, 2015, 1:48 pm
#258
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
I live 30 min from EWR so the coneinvence of direct flights and a UA hub is the main reason why I fly UA. I know people are leaving UA for FF reasons but how are the products at the airlines? The plane, food, employees, etc?
I'm debating if its worth wild to switch and always have to take connecting flights for my routes.
I'm debating if its worth wild to switch and always have to take connecting flights for my routes.
A lot of folks defected from UA to AA and many of them choose connections and found it worthwhile because of better experience and better upgrades.
Personally, I would be hard pressed to choose OAL over UA if UA is direct and OAL is a connection. In my world, direct almost always trumps any other consideration.
Oct 8, 2015, 4:43 pm
#259
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: GS, Marriott Titanium LT, IHG Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 66
I recently flew AA LAX-MIA-LAX and I can't say AA is better than UA. For one thing, the AA restrooms at LAX are disgusting and the boarding process is a mess. I am intrigued by AA's upgrade policy, it seems to be far superior to UAs.
I am doing a 3 month challenge and will earn Platinum on AA giving me more options next year. If upgrades, even paid 500 miles, are much easier to come by, I may switch for good.
I am doing a 3 month challenge and will earn Platinum on AA giving me more options next year. If upgrades, even paid 500 miles, are much easier to come by, I may switch for good.
Oct 8, 2015, 10:31 pm
#260
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 160
I'm glad all these folks left UA. My upgrade percentage has been really high this year. This week, I had my best week all year with six upgrades in six flights.
Oct 9, 2015, 9:24 am
#262
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: UA SP, DL SM MM, AS 75K, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Diamond.
Posts: 2,596
Oct 9, 2015, 9:55 am
#263
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: PA
Programs: Platinum SPG, Marriott Platinum, United 1K, Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum,
Posts: 128
Are you much farther to JFK or LGA? Many other options there.
A lot of folks defected from UA to AA and many of them choose connections and found it worthwhile because of better experience and better upgrades.
Personally, I would be hard pressed to choose OAL over UA if UA is direct and OAL is a connection. In my world, direct almost always trumps any other consideration.
A lot of folks defected from UA to AA and many of them choose connections and found it worthwhile because of better experience and better upgrades.
Personally, I would be hard pressed to choose OAL over UA if UA is direct and OAL is a connection. In my world, direct almost always trumps any other consideration.
Oct 9, 2015, 10:37 am
#264
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NC
Programs: UA ,Qantas ,Southwest
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Me , today 2003 -2015 (2016 ?) GS, 3,63 MM .........just bored now with the 3 years of down grading of GS from mediocre service on Irrops and incompetent people picking up the phone.
Final straw , 10 mins holding on the phone from Tokyo because the website could not calculate a simple fare, to be answered by a lady who having took my MP number asked if I had silver status or above
Its the small stuff that counts Oscar ,I might have given you a chance had you not sat on the sidelines watching this debacle for so long....
It is not possible for the grass not to be greener
Final straw , 10 mins holding on the phone from Tokyo because the website could not calculate a simple fare, to be answered by a lady who having took my MP number asked if I had silver status or above
Its the small stuff that counts Oscar ,I might have given you a chance had you not sat on the sidelines watching this debacle for so long....
It is not possible for the grass not to be greener
Last edited by rduer; Oct 9, 2015 at 10:46 am
Oct 9, 2015, 11:17 am
#265
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 73
Is this "normal"?
17 years with United, mix of 1k and GS. 1k now. Somewhere between 2m and 3m lifetime miles.
I used to go out of my way to fly United (e.g., fly NRT-SFO-SEA on UA instead of NRT-SEA on ANA), but no more.
Most of my tickets are RW, in business class. GPUs cannot be used on those anymore, hence useless to me.
My question - maybe some speculative answers...
Booked SEA-ORD-SEA flight, 3 months ago. About $500, T-class. Departure is next Friday. Immediately applied RPUs, and waitlisted since. In July, all 1st class seats seemed available (using seatmap as an imperfect proxy), and every week a few disappeared.
No choice re. flights, since I have connections. Early am flight out of SEA.
Is it "normal"/expected to have that many 1st class seats gone so soon? I suspect they must be $-upgrades at booking?
I just checked again. There is one 1st class seat left. $587. Economy is $488. If that delta has been in place since I booked, I just answered my own question.
Oh - I can also upgrade for $1,211 right now (just the outbound, return can be upgraded for $485). I guess that is why I am "leaving United".
Note - I am not familiar with all the details of checking upgradable space, calling in for manual upgrades etc., so maybe I could have done something differently.
(return flight on 10-26 has open FC space, but shows same effect - goes down every week)
I used to go out of my way to fly United (e.g., fly NRT-SFO-SEA on UA instead of NRT-SEA on ANA), but no more.
Most of my tickets are RW, in business class. GPUs cannot be used on those anymore, hence useless to me.
My question - maybe some speculative answers...
Booked SEA-ORD-SEA flight, 3 months ago. About $500, T-class. Departure is next Friday. Immediately applied RPUs, and waitlisted since. In July, all 1st class seats seemed available (using seatmap as an imperfect proxy), and every week a few disappeared.
No choice re. flights, since I have connections. Early am flight out of SEA.
Is it "normal"/expected to have that many 1st class seats gone so soon? I suspect they must be $-upgrades at booking?
I just checked again. There is one 1st class seat left. $587. Economy is $488. If that delta has been in place since I booked, I just answered my own question.
Oh - I can also upgrade for $1,211 right now (just the outbound, return can be upgraded for $485). I guess that is why I am "leaving United".
Note - I am not familiar with all the details of checking upgradable space, calling in for manual upgrades etc., so maybe I could have done something differently.
(return flight on 10-26 has open FC space, but shows same effect - goes down every week)
Oct 11, 2015, 2:20 am
#266
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: UA 1k 1mil. Marriott Titanium
Posts: 202
Are you much farther to JFK or LGA? Many other options there.
A lot of folks defected from UA to AA and many of them choose connections and found it worthwhile because of better experience and better upgrades.
Personally, I would be hard pressed to choose OAL over UA if UA is direct and OAL is a connection. In my world, direct almost always trumps any other consideration.
A lot of folks defected from UA to AA and many of them choose connections and found it worthwhile because of better experience and better upgrades.
Personally, I would be hard pressed to choose OAL over UA if UA is direct and OAL is a connection. In my world, direct almost always trumps any other consideration.
Oct 11, 2015, 8:29 am
#267
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
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Gets better in what sense? Many here that are high revenue flyers would argue that the current version of Mileage Plus, with up to 75,000 miles per ticket, meets their needs fine. What do you want them to do differently?
This morning there's a UA flyer on the AA forum who brought in 80,000 miles on an itinerary, which I guess would have been booked as two one-ways. He's wondering if AA will match UA's program because of the frequent flyer miles he receives at UA compared to AA.
This morning there's a UA flyer on the AA forum who brought in 80,000 miles on an itinerary, which I guess would have been booked as two one-ways. He's wondering if AA will match UA's program because of the frequent flyer miles he receives at UA compared to AA.
Oct 11, 2015, 9:30 am
#268
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 187
My question - maybe some speculative answers...
Booked SEA-ORD-SEA flight, 3 months ago. About $500, T-class. Departure is next Friday. Immediately applied RPUs, and waitlisted since. In July, all 1st class seats seemed available (using seatmap as an imperfect proxy), and every week a few disappeared.
No choice re. flights, since I have connections. Early am flight out of SEA.
Is it "normal"/expected to have that many 1st class seats gone so soon? I suspect they must be $-upgrades at booking?
I just checked again. There is one 1st class seat left. $587. Economy is $488. If that delta has been in place since I booked, I just answered my own question.
Oh - I can also upgrade for $1,211 right now (just the outbound, return can be upgraded for $485). I guess that is why I am "leaving United".
Booked SEA-ORD-SEA flight, 3 months ago. About $500, T-class. Departure is next Friday. Immediately applied RPUs, and waitlisted since. In July, all 1st class seats seemed available (using seatmap as an imperfect proxy), and every week a few disappeared.
No choice re. flights, since I have connections. Early am flight out of SEA.
Is it "normal"/expected to have that many 1st class seats gone so soon? I suspect they must be $-upgrades at booking?
I just checked again. There is one 1st class seat left. $587. Economy is $488. If that delta has been in place since I booked, I just answered my own question.
Oh - I can also upgrade for $1,211 right now (just the outbound, return can be upgraded for $485). I guess that is why I am "leaving United".
But your point about United being happy to keep your 1K bottom in coach then honoring your RPU and "losing" $87 is quite valid and doesn't make me happy.
Oct 11, 2015, 9:58 am
#269
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Probably not (other than buying discounted F initially).
Oct 11, 2015, 10:19 pm
#270
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: UA 1k 1mil. Marriott Titanium
Posts: 202
Gets better in what sense? Many here that are high revenue flyers would argue that the current version of Mileage Plus, with up to 75,000 miles per ticket, meets their needs fine. What do you want them to do differently?
This morning there's a UA flyer on the AA forum who brought in 80,000 miles on an itinerary, which I guess would have been booked as two one-ways. He's wondering if AA will match UA's program because of the frequent flyer miles he receives at UA compared to AA.
This morning there's a UA flyer on the AA forum who brought in 80,000 miles on an itinerary, which I guess would have been booked as two one-ways. He's wondering if AA will match UA's program because of the frequent flyer miles he receives at UA compared to AA.