November 2014 United (UA) Traffic Results
Dec 12, 2014, 2:17 pm
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Is that LGA AC better than LGA Amex Centurion Lounge? If not, then nothing to brag about.
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Dec 12, 2014, 2:26 pm
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Hmmm... OK.
But if it was UAL that had this deal people would be up in arms.
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Dec 12, 2014, 2:33 pm
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If you listen to their logic and extrapolate, DL can offer ONE single global upgrade cert and it would be superior to UA's 6 GPU + 2 RPU because "you can use it on any fare"
Dec 12, 2014, 2:35 pm
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oneworld .... how's your SWU working at BA CX JL QR ? whooops you can't use on any of them.
Sooooo many oneworld airlines at JFK combined and NONE can get you nonstop to major business destinations PVG PEK TLV BOM DEL FRA AMS.
And what's the point of proclaiming about being a biz traveler? does that make your opinion more worthy than any other ?
Sooooo many oneworld airlines at JFK combined and NONE can get you nonstop to major business destinations PVG PEK TLV BOM DEL FRA AMS.
And what's the point of proclaiming about being a biz traveler? does that make your opinion more worthy than any other ?
You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying.
So I'm now going to go back to enjoying my AA flight back from LHR into
NY's int'l airport (JFK), on my workable wifi, having quite good food and 8 different wines off of a printed(!) wine list, on a brand new 773 where I upgraded from C to F with my SWU on my one AA flight :-:
Dec 12, 2014, 2:40 pm
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DL: 2/2 CPU with 0 status since I got SPG Platinum
AA: 1/1 sticker upgrade, and it was ORD-SFO booked 20 mins before departure (UAL reroute) - I also would have gotten IAD-LAX booked 20 mins before the flight, but chose not to apply the sticker since I had an empty middle exit row (and yes the plane went with an empty F)
UA: 160 segments this year, and maybe 10 CPU's and I think all were sub 500 mile flights. Many were cheap fares, but my work travel on WVQH fares also have not cleared for the most part
Dec 12, 2014, 2:41 pm
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Is that LGA AC better than LGA Amex Centurion Lounge? If not, then nothing to brag about.
Sigh - a slip-up. But if you want to be pedantic, go right ahead.
Dec 12, 2014, 2:48 pm
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I'm a biz traveler. Spin's a biz traveler. We somehow, some way make non-UA airlines work for us out of big UA markets. I just connected with thousands of other business travelers at LHR today, made very easy by Fast Track security and CX/BA F lounges (on a paid mostly-BA C ticket, where as a business traveler I don't need SWUs).
You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying.
So I'm now going to go back to enjoying my AA flight back from LHR into
NY's int'l airport (JFK), on my workable wifi, having quite good food and 8 different wines off of a printed(!) wine list, on a brand new 773 where I upgraded from C to F with my SWU on my one AA flight :-:
You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying.
So I'm now going to go back to enjoying my AA flight back from LHR into
NY's int'l airport (JFK), on my workable wifi, having quite good food and 8 different wines off of a printed(!) wine list, on a brand new 773 where I upgraded from C to F with my SWU on my one AA flight :-:
"You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying."
And you represent ALL biz travelers all of a sudden?
Zero nonstops to the world's 2nd largest economy and that's what business travelers want ?
TONS of slanted business seats while UA is 100% flat bed is what business travelers want ?
ZERO choice of airport for NYC-SFO/LAX is what business travelers want ?
Going to Paris? sorry, not flat bed 773. Going to Zurich ? sorry, not flat bed 773.
And you're comparing apples to oranges. I'm talking about concourses and you're talking about lounges.
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Dec 12, 2014, 2:55 pm
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That pretty much sums it up. UA never get a pass for anything, while DL/AA are the "world's greatest gifts" despite their many significant flaws.
If you listen to their logic and extrapolate, DL can offer ONE single global upgrade cert and it would be superior to UA's 6 GPU + 2 RPU because "you can use it on any fare"
If you listen to their logic and extrapolate, DL can offer ONE single global upgrade cert and it would be superior to UA's 6 GPU + 2 RPU because "you can use it on any fare"
Dec 12, 2014, 2:59 pm
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Funny you bring up LHR, which just shut down their entire airspace today for hours.
And I have no idea why you mean FastTrack because any J pax at LHR gets that ... not a BA/AA exclusive thing.
"You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying."
And you represent ALL biz travelers all of a sudden?
Zero nonstops to the world's 2nd largest economy and that's what business travelers want ?
TONS of slanted business seats while UA is 100% flat bed is what business travelers want ?
ZERO choice of airport for NYC-SFO/LAX is what business travelers want ?
Going to Paris? sorry, not flat bed 773. Going to Zurich ? sorry, not flat bed 773.
And I have no idea why you mean FastTrack because any J pax at LHR gets that ... not a BA/AA exclusive thing.
"You're projecting what works and what doesn't work for biz travelers when you're not one yourself. Just saying."
And you represent ALL biz travelers all of a sudden?
Zero nonstops to the world's 2nd largest economy and that's what business travelers want ?
TONS of slanted business seats while UA is 100% flat bed is what business travelers want ?
ZERO choice of airport for NYC-SFO/LAX is what business travelers want ?
Going to Paris? sorry, not flat bed 773. Going to Zurich ? sorry, not flat bed 773.
Business travelers also don't like UGs being sold out from underneath them when they're on personal, cheaper CPM travel (actually, that happens on UA on high CPM travel too for non-GS, what am I thinking).
Business travelers also like keeping the seat they've assigned, having functioning & widespread wifi, and edible food on board when they're coming late from work and don't have time to stop on the way. UA struggles here too.
Business travelers like the option to be routed to OALs when the S hits the fan and the home airline can't deliver. UA likes to push back on this.
Business travelers - it just takes one to know one. Don't know what else to tell you. @:-)
Dec 12, 2014, 3:03 pm
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Topic Reminder
The topic is the monthly traffic reports -- not lounges / concourses / upgrade certs / .... while understanding they may influence carrier choices, that's not the topic of this thread and have otherwise been discussed extensively elsewhere. Future OT posts will be deleted.
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The topic is the monthly traffic reports -- not lounges / concourses / upgrade certs / .... while understanding they may influence carrier choices, that's not the topic of this thread and have otherwise been discussed extensively elsewhere. Future OT posts will be deleted.
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Dec 12, 2014, 6:19 pm
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UA Oct 1, 2014 to Nov 30, 2014
On-time 77%
Late 8%
Very Late 4%
Excessive 8%
Canceled 1%
Diverted 0%
On-time 77%
Late 8%
Very Late 4%
Excessive 8%
Canceled 1%
Diverted 0%
UA should be proud of these numbers! Proud, I say!
DL Same time period:
On-time 83%
Late 7%
Very Late 2%
Excessive 5%
Canceled 0%
Diverted 0%
On-time 83%
Late 7%
Very Late 2%
Excessive 5%
Canceled 0%
Diverted 0%
I fly DL, UA and AA weekly and I can not believe how some on FT defend UA to the death. They simply do NO wrong, ever!
DL and AA's soft product and overall attitude of the employees blows UA out of the water (currently). If UA flies nonstop (mainline) and DL or AA do not - I'll fly UA. If not - it is DL or AA, sometimes even WN.
I use on-time to measure this, as well.I am on 8-10 flights each week (at least) - so I can tell the difference among carriers. UA needs to get it together and stop flying so many RJ's on long routes.
There is no excuse for these poor on-time numbers - month after month on UA years after the merger. Management needs to get it running as one airline. Period.
Have a great weekend.
Dec 12, 2014, 6:27 pm
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For completeness, from the same data source
US & AA seems to be about the same -- US had been better
Both basically tied with UA for the bottom of the majors.
Seems WN numbers are improving
Both basically tied with UA for the bottom of the majors.
Dec 12, 2014, 8:27 pm
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Perhaps operational reliability does matter.
Dec 12, 2014, 8:55 pm
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So does timing, pace, operations, flexibility, position, direction, girth, rotation, turns, spins and the bottom line is on time performance.
It is a win-win for UA! And it gives a big ^
to both the passenger and the airline.