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Dec 9, 2014, 11:31 am

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Originally Posted by channa

Weren't all the PS flights 1-2 digits....

Nope. Some were direct flights through to Asia on that same flight number. In 2008 I flew UA 891 JFK-LAX, for example. I don't remember where that flight number continued on to/from, but it did.

Dec 9, 2014, 2:27 pm

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Originally Posted by sbm12

Nope. Some were direct flights through to Asia on that same flight number. In 2008 I flew UA 891 JFK-LAX, for example. I don't remember where that flight number continued on to/from, but it did.

893 also used to be a p.s. route because the flight number continued on to NRT.

UA29 will always be my favorite though. The 8:29pm JFK-LAX p.s. flight.

Dec 9, 2014, 9:27 pm

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Originally Posted by channa

Meanwhile, several of the CO flight numbers were retained and still fly their original routes.

Such as.........?????????? Feel free to insert flight numbers here. (see below)
Is this yet another "CO vs UA" thing? ... Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28

Hmm no not really:

1 used to be IAH - HNL - GUM then was the 2nd daily IAH - NRT
2 used to be GUM - HNL - IAH then was the 2nd daily NRT - IAH
8 NRT - EWR (no longer exists) is now 78
9 EWR - NRT (no longer exists) is now 79
16 EWR - GLA (no longer exists) is now 161
17 GLA - EWR (no longer exists) is now 162
18 EWR - LHR is now MXP - EWR
19 LHR - EWR is now EWR - MXP
20 EWR - MAN (no longer exists) is now 81
21 MAN - EWR (no longer exists) is now 80
22 EWR - DUB is now DUB - EWR
23 DUB - EWR is now EWR - DUB
24 EWR - SNN is now SNN - EWR
25 SNN - EWR is now EWR - SNN
26 EWR - BHX is now BHX - EWR
27 BHX - EWR is now EWR - BHX
28 EWR - LHR is now LHR - EWR
29 LHR - EWR is now EWR - LHR
44 EWR - MXP is now EWR - BRU
45 MXP - EWR is now BRU - EWR
52 EZE - IAH is now IAD - ZRH
53 IAH - EZE is now ZRH - IAD
56 EWR - CDG is now CDG - EWR
57 CDG - EWR is now EWR - CDG
60/61 EWR - BRU - EWR (no longer exists)
72 was HNL - IAH (is now HNL - SFO)
73 was IAH - HNL (is now SFO - HNL)
75 was LAX - HNL (is now HAM - EWR)
76 was HNL - LAX (is now BFS - EWR)
78/79 was EWR - ZRH - EWR is now 134 (78/79 is now EWR - NRT - EWR)
80/81 was EWR - GVA - EWR (is now EWR - MAN - EWR)
86 PVG - EWR is now EWR - PVG
87 EWR - PVG is now PVG - EWR
94/95 was EWR - BRS - EWR (no longer exists)
96/97 was EWR - TXL - EWR (is now 124/125)
98/99 was EWR - HKG - EWR (is now 116/117)
104/105 was EWR - ATH - EWR (is now IAH - MUC - IAH)
118/119 was EWR - FRA - EWR (no longer exists)
134/135 is now EWR - ZRH - EWR (don't believe it was a CO flight back then)

Also several of the CO Micronesia flights that were assigned 9xx and 8xx flight numbers were reassigned flight numbers ie 98/99 for GUM - CNS and 196/197 for GUM - NRT.

Dec 10, 2014, 12:55 am

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934/935 lax-Lhr-lax has been around for some time

Dec 10, 2014, 5:57 am

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Originally Posted by cbrown5294

934/935 lax-Lhr-lax has been around for some time

As has 930/931 SFO-LHR

Dec 10, 2014, 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by cbrown5294

934/935 lax-Lhr-lax has been around for some time

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Originally Posted by lhrsfo

As has 930/931 SFO-LHR

It also seems like some of the ORD/LHR and ORD/FRA pairs have been around for quite a while.

Dec 10, 2014, 7:15 am

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and 857/858 PVG-SFO, 888/889 PEK-SFO

Dec 10, 2014, 3:54 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n198ua

Does anyone know what the oldest still-active flight number is on UA, that's still flying the original route ? I know that AA 1 has been JFK-LAX since at least the early 60s, but believe UA #1 used to be ORD-HNL . . .

Just curious; thanks.

UA is quite old.

Flight 1 - the Coast to Coast Limited - used to operate:

New York
Cleveland
Toledo
Chicago
Iowa City
Des Moines
Omaha
Lincoln
North Platte
Cheyenne
Rock Springs
Salt Lake
Elko
Reno
Sacramento
Oakland

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...a31/ua31-3.jpg

Note: Leg 1 - New York to Cleveland - was operated by a New York Central train. Aircraft west of Cleveland.

I am not sure if that was its original routing, but certainly prior to ORD-HNL.

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Dec 10, 2014, 7:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Indelaware

Fascinating timetable. 20 minute flights from Seattle (I assume what is now Boeing Field) to Tacoma (perhaps a field near McChord?), as part of the 11 hour flight from Seattle to San Diego!

Roughly 15 minutes to fly from Dallas to Fort Worth. Come to think of it, on his last day, didn't JFK and entourage fly from Fort Worth to Dallas on Air Force 1?

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Dec 10, 2014, 7:27 pm

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881/882 - ORD-NRT has held on for a long, long time.

Gone are the classics like 500 (ORD-IND) or 1492 (ORD-CMH)...

Dec 11, 2014, 1:01 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyPatterson

BFI-TCM was likely the route. BFI was Seattle's main airport since being built in 1928. SEA was only constructed in 1944 after the U.S. military took over BFI for the war effort.

There is little traffic on BFI-TCM today, but BFI-SEA sees traffic regularly. Flight times are generally about 10-15 minutes, except for proving flights which may take hours:
http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KBFI/KSEA
http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KSEA/KBFI

Yes, FTW-DAL was the President's last flight. There is still a fair amount of traffic on DAL-FTW/FTW-DAL. Some flights are longer, but 15 minutes seems to be about the norm:
http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KDAL/KFTW/
http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KFTW/KDAL

Here is a link to Continetal's first stand-alone schedule (apart from its Varney cousin, United):
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...o37/co37-2.jpg

CO 1 operated:

Denver
Colorado Springs
Pueblo
Santa Fe
Albuquerque
El Paso

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Dec 11, 2014, 6:21 pm

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Originally Posted by sbm12

Nope. Some were direct flights through to Asia on that same flight number. In 2008 I flew UA 891 JFK-LAX, for example. I don't remember where that flight number continued on to/from, but it did.

UA891 was JFK-LAX-NRT-(maybe) ICN for awhile.

Dec 13, 2014, 3:27 pm

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Hardly a glamorous one but UA 6528 has been flying LAX-PHX since at least 2004 (when I first noticed it after taking it).

Dec 13, 2014, 3:46 pm

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UA895/896 between ORD and HKG have been around since 1996 if this article can be trusted:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight

It seems there should be some really old numbers.

Dec 18, 2014, 2:51 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by songzm

and 857/858 PVG-SFO, 888/889 PEK-SFO

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhua777

881/882 - ORD-NRT has held on for a long, long time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by atword

UA895/896 between ORD and HKG have been around since 1996 if this article can be trusted:

These are old numbers, but definitely not the oldest.

857/858 used to be ORD-SFO-PVG, that is before ORD-PVG nonstop, with ORD-SFO was also using a 744, 10am ORD departure !

881/882 used to be IAD-ORD-NRT-BKK.

895/896 used to be EWR-ORD-HKG-SIN.

Last edited by ORDnHKG; Dec 18, 2014 at 2:58 pm

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