n198ua

Does anyone know what the oldest still-active flight number is on UA, that's still flying the original route ? I know that AA 1 has been JFK-LAX since at least the early 60s, but believe UA #1 used to be ORD-HNL . . .

Just curious; thanks.

JOSECONLSCREW28

I don't believe there's any UA flight numbers flying their original routes anymore. Some went to other routes, others were just dropped altogether.

andryas

How about flights from North America to Asia vv. HKG-SFO for example, it has been UA 862 for a long time.

riphamilton

UA 1/2 used to be the RTW flight in the 90s (and perhaps earlier).

poohhead80

UA 808/807 was between ICN-SFO in 1990s (and early 2000s if I remember correctly). Now it is UA 893/892.

Now UA 808/807 is beween PEK and IAD.

http://www.wings900.com/vb/1-1-civil...s-pacific.html

Change of flight #'s on United flights to Pacific
According to United's latest online timetable, the following flight numbers will change as of January 7th, 2004.

UA805 IAD-SFO-HKG-SIN change to UA869
UA806 SIN-HKG-SFO-IAD change to UA862*
UA807 EWR-SFO-ICN change to UA893
UA808 ICN-SFO-EWR change to UA892
UA809 ORD-SFO-KIX change to UA885
UA810 KIX-SFO-ORD change to UA886
UA815 JFK-LAX-SYD-MEL change to UA839
UA816 MEL-SYD-LAX-JFK change to UA840
UA826 NRT-HNL change to UA880
UA827 HNL-NRT change to UA879

Other Pacific flights remain unchanged.

Anyone know the reason for the shifting of numbers? For the most part, these have been established for many years already.

*UA862/863 SYD-SFO-ORD/v.v. remain unchanged according to the schedule. Two UA862's??? Must be a mistake in there somewhere.

PaulMCO

You have to go back to the Pan Am days -- where 005 became 805 after UA acquired the routes from PA in 84. 005 was the SFO-HKG-SIN flight -- If you want a pure UA flight 882 might be the oldest continuous ORD-NRT.

And UA801/802 used to be PA 01/02

ICN did not open until 2001...

poohhead80

You are right. Gmp until 2001

ORDnHKG

No mistake, UA862 for the other direction is UA869 IAD-SFO-HKG.

UA 863 for the other direction is UA 870 SFO-SYD.

weirdlyndon

UA912 LAX-JFK redeye has actually been one of the few flights that has retained it's flight number, if I'm recalling correctly. I vividly remember flying 912 several times in PMUA days, and it's held post merger through today. Nearly every other p.s. flight has changed flight numbers several times.

channa

Weren't all the PS flights 1-2 digits which is now in the CO flight number range.


Meanwhile, several of the CO flight numbers were retained and still fly their original routes.

spearsba

Hasn't the late flight from IAD to FRA been UA932 for quite a while?

Miles Ahead

The early ORD-FRA has been 944/945 since 2003 and probably 1999 or earlier.

ORDnHKG

No it is not.

UA 801 doesn't pair with 802, and it sure isn't used to be PA 1/2, as they are entirely different routings !

It is UA 800/801 JFK-NRT-HKG ! UA 800/801 translate directly from PA 800/801, PA has the exact same routing using 747SP ! As at the time only SP has the range to fly JFK-NRT nonstop ! Later on this route can be accomplish by 747-200B with NW as NW 17/18.

PA 1/2 was LAX-NRT-HKG-BKK, even though I had never flown on PA (those days I was a NW guy), but whenever I transit thru NRT, I would see both PA 1 and PA 801 both headed to HKG !

And if you remembered, after UA discontinued RTW, UA 1/2 actually goes LAX-HKG-BKK instead of LAX-HKG-DEL.

JOSECONLSCREW28

Hmm no not really:

1 used to be IAH - HNL - GUM then was the 2nd daily IAH - NRT
2 used to be GUM - HNL - IAH then was the 2nd daily NRT - IAH
8 NRT - EWR (no longer exists) is now 78
9 EWR - NRT (no longer exists) is now 79
16 EWR - GLA (no longer exists) is now 161
17 GLA - EWR (no longer exists) is now 162
18 EWR - LHR is now MXP - EWR
19 LHR - EWR is now EWR - MXP
20 EWR - MAN (no longer exists) is now 81
21 MAN - EWR (no longer exists) is now 80
22 EWR - DUB is now DUB - EWR
23 DUB - EWR is now EWR - DUB
24 EWR - SNN is now SNN - EWR
25 SNN - EWR is now EWR - SNN
26 EWR - BHX is now BHX - EWR
27 BHX - EWR is now EWR - BHX
28 EWR - LHR is now LHR - EWR
29 LHR - EWR is now EWR - LHR
44 EWR - MXP is now EWR - BRU
45 MXP - EWR is now BRU - EWR
52 EZE - IAH is now IAD - ZRH
53 IAH - EZE is now ZRH - IAD
56 EWR - CDG is now CDG - EWR
57 CDG - EWR is now EWR - CDG
60/61 EWR - BRU - EWR (no longer exists)
72 was HNL - IAH (is now HNL - SFO)
73 was IAH - HNL (is now SFO - HNL)
75 was LAX - HNL (is now HAM - EWR)
76 was HNL - LAX (is now BFS - EWR)
78/79 was EWR - ZRH - EWR is now 134 (78/79 is now EWR - NRT - EWR)
80/81 was EWR - GVA - EWR (is now EWR - MAN - EWR)
86 PVG - EWR is now EWR - PVG
87 EWR - PVG is now PVG - EWR
94/95 was EWR - BRS - EWR (no longer exists)
96/97 was EWR - TXL - EWR (is now 124/125)
98/99 was EWR - HKG - EWR (is now 116/117)
104/105 was EWR - ATH - EWR (is now IAH - MUC - IAH)
118/119 was EWR - FRA - EWR (no longer exists)
134/135 is now EWR - ZRH - EWR (don't believe it was a CO flight back then)

Also several of the CO Micronesia flights that were assigned 9xx and 8xx flight numbers were reassigned flight numbers ie 98/99 for GUM - CNS and 196/197 for GUM - NRT.

ORDnHKG

Before ICN open, there was no code for GMP, it was just SEL instead !