Will UA follow Delta's cabin changes incl. removing E+ at booking for gold?
#46
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I seem to remember there being a Member of Congress who proposed legislation requiring that families be allowed to sit together on flights at no extra cost. The airlines better not trick people into thinking they have to pay more for E+ or else they risk being legislated out of having any E+ revenue.
#47
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Ha.. I think we have a better chance of UA dropping the PQD requirement then that of congress passing actually useful legislation against big money industry...
#48
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If I can't get an E+ aisle seat at booking, I simply won't book that flight. This Gold and close to MM level won't have any reason to prefer UA. International lounge access is nice, but not nearly enough to compensate me for my aching back and bruised knees after a long trip in E-.
#49
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UA can do this if they want, but I can't see the benefit to them. It's not like they'll sell more E+ to kettles. I mean, when I was a Silver I was 100% getting E+ at T-24, whether it was a TATL flight or a mid-con.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
#50
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This is one of those things where you're just moving benefits around. Lower level elites on average get worse seats, but higher-level elites - especially those booking late who tend to generate the most money - get better seats.
If I were United I would definitely change the policy.
If I were United I would definitely change the policy.
#51
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The free drinks are internationally and JFK-LAX/SFO only, but it's something that UA probably won't match. I bet they do eventually emulate DL w/ shorter Gold "free" window and pre-window discounts for Golds/Silvers. I'm sure a lot of of travelers (especially those traveling with others) probably would pay to sit together if a discount was offered to avoid the seat lottery.
#52
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UA can do this if they want, but I can't see the benefit to them. It's not like they'll sell more E+ to kettles. I mean, when I was a Silver I was 100% getting E+ at T-24, whether it was a TATL flight or a mid-con.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
I'm cautiously optimistic that this seating benefit stays for AA Plats when the programs are fully merged next year. Even without a true E+ on US planes, it's still a nice perk to be able to select seats with them at time of booking up front. Right now it seems like AA is willing to differentiate their product from AA/DL, but we'll see how long that lasts. Personally, I'm glad I made the switch from the UA to AA, as even with lowly Plat status, I feel like I get a little more than I did as a Gold or Plat with UA. To the thread though, given where MP, or MileageMinus, is going and has been going, I can see our pals at Willis tower green-lighting the change and perhaps linking the state selection at booking 'perk' to the Chase Card or something like that.
#53
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UA can do this if they want, but I can't see the benefit to them. It's not like they'll sell more E+ to kettles. I mean, when I was a Silver I was 100% getting E+ at T-24, whether it was a TATL flight or a mid-con.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
All it will do is continue to push the people like me who try to stick with UA despite all the crap over to AA/US. And God I don't want to move to AA even though I live in PHL.
#55
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Bad experiences with US? Were the E+ seats middle seats?
I'm cautiously optimistic that this seating benefit stays for AA Plats when the programs are fully merged next year. Even without a true E+ on US planes, it's still a nice perk to be able to select seats with them at time of booking up front. Right now it seems like AA is willing to differentiate their product from AA/DL, but we'll see how long that lasts. Personally, I'm glad I made the switch from the UA to AA, as even with lowly Plat status, I feel like I get a little more than I did as a Gold or Plat with UA. To the thread though, given where MP, or MileageMinus, is going and has been going, I can see our pals at Willis tower green-lighting the change and perhaps linking the state selection at booking 'perk' to the Chase Card or something like that.
I'm cautiously optimistic that this seating benefit stays for AA Plats when the programs are fully merged next year. Even without a true E+ on US planes, it's still a nice perk to be able to select seats with them at time of booking up front. Right now it seems like AA is willing to differentiate their product from AA/DL, but we'll see how long that lasts. Personally, I'm glad I made the switch from the UA to AA, as even with lowly Plat status, I feel like I get a little more than I did as a Gold or Plat with UA. To the thread though, given where MP, or MileageMinus, is going and has been going, I can see our pals at Willis tower green-lighting the change and perhaps linking the state selection at booking 'perk' to the Chase Card or something like that.
For now its primarily my EU travel and detesting connecting through LHR.
*eta thanks to mod for merging my failed multi-quote...
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#56
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I actually doubt that UA will remove automatic E+ booking for Golds. With it being harder to qualify for Gold based on the newly increased revenue requirements, there will be fewer Golds. And with fewer Golds, there are more E+ seats that UA already can sell/upcharge.
IF UA were to preclude E+ booking for Gold, that would be a major devaluation of 1 million mile/Lifetime Gold benefits--and probably subject UA to a class action lawsuit since once one qualifies for Lifetime Gold, there is a legal assumption of continuation of comparable benefits.
IF UA were to preclude E+ booking for Gold, that would be a major devaluation of 1 million mile/Lifetime Gold benefits--and probably subject UA to a class action lawsuit since once one qualifies for Lifetime Gold, there is a legal assumption of continuation of comparable benefits.
#57
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I actually doubt that UA will remove automatic E+ booking for Golds. With it being harder to qualify for Gold based on the newly increased revenue requirements, there will be fewer Golds. And with fewer Golds, there are more E+ seats that UA already can sell/upcharge.
IF UA were to preclude E+ booking for Gold, that would be a major devaluation of 1 million mile/Lifetime Gold benefits--and probably subject UA to a class action lawsuit since once one qualifies for Lifetime Gold, there is a legal assumption of continuation of comparable benefits.
IF UA were to preclude E+ booking for Gold, that would be a major devaluation of 1 million mile/Lifetime Gold benefits--and probably subject UA to a class action lawsuit since once one qualifies for Lifetime Gold, there is a legal assumption of continuation of comparable benefits.
#58
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Sure, United will
...and probably a great way for United to distinguish a major difference between Premier Gold and Premier Platinum. A perk, which can reprogram you to book additional $2500 in booking and 25000 miles of additional travel.
Jiburi
PS- On my most recent flight, two people sitting E+ declined on-board late F upgrade, as E+ offered better leg room. There is definitely value in sitting E+ and some actually prefer it than F.
Jiburi
PS- On my most recent flight, two people sitting E+ declined on-board late F upgrade, as E+ offered better leg room. There is definitely value in sitting E+ and some actually prefer it than F.
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Again, I still doubt that UA would drop the automatic booking benefit for E+ for its Gold and higher elites. Until then, this is all academic.
#60
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It is coming. The A319s are getting MCE starting soon and I would bet that other aircraft will be more than not.