Graves

What did they do the current MM? I came into ask the same question pspark had, as I am nearing 1M, so I am hopeful for life stands.

Bear4Asian

Looks like the answer is no: from Delta's FAQs


"Rollover MQMs will not change with the new program. As long as you earn Medallion status based on the new requirements, any MQMs in excess of the threshold needed for status earned will roll over. There will be no rollover of MQDs, the MQD Waiver (Delta SkyMiles Credit Card spend) or Medallion Qualification Segments (MQSs)."

The rollover of MQMs started @2009 based on a customer's suggestion. Fancy that!

tom911

They haven't done anything to million milers qualifying this year under the new program, but if you're a pre-merger UA million miler you've lost your 100% mileage bonus that came with lifetime Premier Executive and two annual regional upgrades. During the discussion of those changes many posters pointed out that UA reserves the right to change the program and benefits at any time, so your 2014 benefits may very well be different in subsequent years if UA makes more changes.

thepla

They also used to allow a1k to give someone else status.

LilAbner

They still do, and I think that if you are NOT aware of that you might want to call and add a name!

IAH-OIL-TRASH

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If you're a MM and 1K, you can bestow status, but not with just 1K status.

LarkSFO

You did get the memo regarding BKK cancellation (on UA metal), right?

Now only options are *A or OAL's.

dsquared37

UA's game plan is divide and conquer. Those cheering this particular move are a subset of those cheering the PQD move. And soon there will be another announcement and those in favor will be a subset of the current chearleaders.

Silver Fox

It is the mantra of CEOs these days, if in doubt, or you are out of your depth, try cutting your way to profit.

FlyDeltaJets87

But why are they more valuable and getting a better reward than the 1K who is flying DEN-ORD every week for a similar fare and only getting just over 3500 total miles for the trip under the current system? This flyer stands to gain under the new one. And please explain why one who flies further is automatically more valuable and apparently deserves to be rewarded more than the flyers who do short hops, because if you're defending the current system, that's exactly what you're saying - that long-haul flyers should be rewarded better than short haul flyers, regardless of revenue.

I didn't make Gold Medallion on DL for the first time until I started adding in some west coast trips. For the first three years I was a Medallion, most of my flying was limited to short-hops on the east coast. Because of those short hops, especially before I had status, it took me a heck of a lot of trips to earn enough miles for even one free domestic ticket, regardless of the fact that some of those trips were $400 tickets. If only getting the 500 mile minimum (which I don't think UA even has anymore for non-elites) it would take 25 round trips (at 2 segments earning 500 miles each or 1,000 miles total) to get ONE free domestic ticket. 25 round trips REGARDLESS of how much you paid or put it. For a further example: under the current (outgoing system), a general member would have to fly DEN-ORD 15 times to get a free ticket. A 1K would have to fly it 7 times to get a free domestic ticket. That's regardless of the fare that's paid. Yet if flying SFO-JFK, a general member would only have to fly it 5 times to get a free ticket while a 1K would only have to fly it 3 times. And again, that's regardless of how much they paid. So please tell me what is fair about a system like that or why it needs to be kept and why the airlines are so horrible for going to a system that rewards its flyers more equally.

vandrei

Divide, yes. Conquer, no.

Mr. Smisek just managed to convert loyal mid-tier elites into kettles...and others into AA/DL/OAL customers. That's not exactly "conquering," unless Mr. Smisek is actually an agent of AA/DL/OALs.

That's the real problem here.

Mr. Smisek had the opportunity to unveil a thoughtful, careful redesign of MP that rewarded both spend and loyalty.

Instead, United's (and the former Continental's, too) most loyal customers are being treated to a loyalty program that would astound Rube Goldberg with questionable service improvements, and the end result may very well be United's death...by a thousand cuts, especially since United can't manage its customers expectations and can't communicate any further beyond corporatese.

But hey, I could expect nothing less from an Ivy League lawyer and economist with no real business experience who's prone to spreadsheet thinking.

AA_EXP09

SWU?

halls120

What service improvements have accompanied the new MP program?

bldr1k

One reason, that I haven't seen discussed here, and I know will be controversial, is the Pilots. I believe the Pilots (for mainline flights) on AA/Delta/United are far better trained and more experienced then any of the Asian airlines. With the newer airplanes and improved computers this isn't as big of a deal, but you look at what happened in SFO last year and just shake your head.

porciuscato

I recall that it was a UAL pilot (not an Asian carrier) that nearly flew a 747 into San Bruno mountain. The reason? He had only done one take-off/landing in that plane in over a year.