When the gate check goes wrong
#18
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The wait time listed is absolutely unacceptable. But just as a point of reference, with YYZ as one of my primary destinations until last fall, and where I was based for a long time before that up through the early 2000s, over the years, I've seen how things work. UA actually has been pretty good most of the time. I've waited over 30 minutes on a few occasions, and even more than an hour on occasion, to get a gate when flying AC over the years. I've waited this long or more for checked bags sometimes, too.
As mentioned above, this part of the operation was outsourced for years, well before the talk of any merger.
Our designated gate was occupied and they sent us off to Siberia - gates in the 800's in an ancient extension with only Beech D-18's around us and of course, using the internal steps to the tarmac. Followed by a walk to the terminal that was as long as any I ever have done. And the CRJ was going next to Denver with the same crew. The poor folks waiting for that flight out there in the boonies were really getting a raw deal.
You were probably went to the barn as it is sometimes called - gates F in the higher 80s and 90s. The waiting area is indeed awful, and its a long walk for sure...almost as deserving of a shuttle bus as the old infield(/midfield) concourse). There were likely Beech's, yes, but Dash-8s, CRJ(-200) and ERJs go there all the time, including ACs CRJs. Granted, those are mostly the 50 seater CRJ - its rare for the CRJ-700s to park there IME, but I've had it happen before. My arrivals/departures on these aircraft with UA have almost always used gates in the main terminal area (usually F61 - F65).
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Recognizing intentional (and funny!) hyperbole and then issuing demerits for it is kinda... strange.
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Thanks - Did that. They responded within the day with an electronic travel certificate on the condition that I leave them alone. There is no admission that what they did was wrong. "RELEASE OF LIABILITY
By acceptance of this travel certificate you release United; the operating carrier, and their respective employees, agents and representatives from any and all liability, claims or damages resulting or arising from the matters relating to your flight, compensation therefore or any related complaint."
By acceptance of this travel certificate you release United; the operating carrier, and their respective employees, agents and representatives from any and all liability, claims or damages resulting or arising from the matters relating to your flight, compensation therefore or any related complaint."
Perfect. That's standard release language. Ignore it, you're not planning on suing them, so let them have the release, so long as the travel credit value seems fair to you.
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The pmCO RJ/prop operation at YYZ is pathetic.
(I say that as someone who is based in YYZ)
They run 2-3 flights at a time out of the regional 'barn', where its often difficult to know what is running from what gates, and the procedure on inbounds is to hold everyone on board until ALL the bags are delivered. AA lets people off over in T3, and I've never had to wait more than 3-4 minutes for the door to open, vs. > 30 minutes sometimes on UA.
And its only going to get worse.
(I say that as someone who is based in YYZ)
They run 2-3 flights at a time out of the regional 'barn', where its often difficult to know what is running from what gates, and the procedure on inbounds is to hold everyone on board until ALL the bags are delivered. AA lets people off over in T3, and I've never had to wait more than 3-4 minutes for the door to open, vs. > 30 minutes sometimes on UA.
And its only going to get worse.
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I agree....if you want to get their attention quickly, Tweet them. Their Twitter desk seems to be one of the rare bright sides of United.
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Which is why I always go IAH->EWR->YYZ and return. Plus the possibility of actually getting a CPU on the IHA<->EWR portion and sometimes even on the EWR<->YYZ leg when its a Q400.
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#25

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I've gotten canned responses from Twitter as well that did not answer my question, but yes, generally speaking, they are much better than email support!
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BTW - gate agent in LAS on Wednesday night was enforcing size limits by just looking at bags -- I saw very few people putting bags into the sizers. The GA on my flight stopped a guy as he was about to board and told him his bag was too big and to check it. It looked larger than a standard rollaboard, but not by much. I assume he got a gate check tag from the desk and carried the bag to the end of the jetway, but I boarded and didn't see him after that.
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The tweet to United got a much quicker response than the initial complaint but the response was the same suggestion that I should pay to get on the plane sooner.
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