How many are REALLY leaving UA? [2014 edition]
#601
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
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#602
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AADULtArer
Posts: 5,683
Investing in ANY airline for lifetime privileges is foolish. If it fits business needs for today then it makes sense, but thinking that 1K for life will be meaningful down the road.......
#604
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,168
UA leaving Us
I have a friend who also is a UA frequent flyer. One of the routes he flies monthly is CLE-PHL and UA will be pulling out of this route the end of next week as related to the hub closure. He will being flying US Airways (American) in the future. Note sure why UA is pulling this route yet they are keeping BWI.
Phase 1 of the hub closure starts soon. I was at the airport this weekend and looks like all the flights a packed, especially Florida flights. They were operating 2 flights to both MIA and PBI both routes they will no longer serve.
Phase 1 of the hub closure starts soon. I was at the airport this weekend and looks like all the flights a packed, especially Florida flights. They were operating 2 flights to both MIA and PBI both routes they will no longer serve.
#605
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: UAL1K
Posts: 101
Trying American
After 10+ years with United, I flew American for the first time this weekend. On Friday, I was in Main Cabin Extra DCA-DFW and today, I was in first DFW-DCA. Both flights were great and the first class meal far exceeds what United offers on a flight of similar distance.
And the Admirals Club blows away the United Club. Night and day.
And the Admirals Club blows away the United Club. Night and day.
#606
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Diego
Programs: IHG Spire Amb, HH Diamond, DL Diamond and 1MM
Posts: 3,611
Let's face it. Air travel and FF programs have become less pleasant and stingier over the last few years with the mergers. DL seems to be leading the FF devaluation, UA is probably leading on the service cuts.
One thing I am sure of : AA's FF program will get devalued. So for me, why would I change and start pretty much at the bottom again?
One thing I am sure of : AA's FF program will get devalued. So for me, why would I change and start pretty much at the bottom again?
However, I respectfully suggest that jumping to AA or AS is a reasonable option. If and *WHEN* these last good ff programs slash benefits, one can always jump back to the least horrible airline of the day.
#607
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Exec Plat, UA 1K, SPG Plat, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 201
It's called a status match. You don't have to "start at the bottom". I did mine to AA in February and it was nearly seemless. First Class upgrades right from the first flight, and AA club membership. I agree completely that AA will devalue their program to match United and Delta, but why would I stick with United when they are offering an inferior FFP and fewer upgrades right now? At least I'll get to enjoy a decent FFP with some good redemptions for another year or two.
#608
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5
I'm honestly considering making the switch to another airline. I'm barely at 200,000 lifetime miles so my loss is negligible on UA, and am seeking reviews on DL and AA from friends who fly on those airlines.
The thing pushing me away from UA is the lack of in-flight wi-fi on a lot of domestic carriers, as they continuously lag behind the other big airlines in this as a feature. A lot of outdated planes are used on the flights I've been taking as well, with aircrafts that lack features I want access to (electricity, the classic TV-bolted-to-the-ceiling, etc).
The thing keeping me on UA is their FF program, but to a mix-up in what fare class I booked for a Star Alliance airline, along with a delay that had me re-booked on AA for a flight to EZE, I'm now out 15,000 qualifying miles, most likely neutering my chance at 1K this year. If I can't hit 1K, I have a lot less desire to stay on UA.
The thing pushing me away from UA is the lack of in-flight wi-fi on a lot of domestic carriers, as they continuously lag behind the other big airlines in this as a feature. A lot of outdated planes are used on the flights I've been taking as well, with aircrafts that lack features I want access to (electricity, the classic TV-bolted-to-the-ceiling, etc).
The thing keeping me on UA is their FF program, but to a mix-up in what fare class I booked for a Star Alliance airline, along with a delay that had me re-booked on AA for a flight to EZE, I'm now out 15,000 qualifying miles, most likely neutering my chance at 1K this year. If I can't hit 1K, I have a lot less desire to stay on UA.
#609
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
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I'm honestly considering making the switch to another airline. I'm barely at 200,000 lifetime miles so my loss is negligible on UA, and am seeking reviews on DL and AA from friends who fly on those airlines.
The thing pushing me away from UA is the lack of in-flight wi-fi on a lot of domestic carriers, as they continuously lag behind the other big airlines in this as a feature. A lot of outdated planes are used on the flights I've been taking as well, with aircrafts that lack features I want access to (electricity, the classic TV-bolted-to-the-ceiling, etc).
The thing keeping me on UA is their FF program, but to a mix-up in what fare class I booked for a Star Alliance airline, along with a delay that had me re-booked on AA for a flight to EZE, I'm now out 15,000 qualifying miles, most likely neutering my chance at 1K this year. If I can't hit 1K, I have a lot less desire to stay on UA.
The thing pushing me away from UA is the lack of in-flight wi-fi on a lot of domestic carriers, as they continuously lag behind the other big airlines in this as a feature. A lot of outdated planes are used on the flights I've been taking as well, with aircrafts that lack features I want access to (electricity, the classic TV-bolted-to-the-ceiling, etc).
The thing keeping me on UA is their FF program, but to a mix-up in what fare class I booked for a Star Alliance airline, along with a delay that had me re-booked on AA for a flight to EZE, I'm now out 15,000 qualifying miles, most likely neutering my chance at 1K this year. If I can't hit 1K, I have a lot less desire to stay on UA.
I'd go AA if I were you...for now, a fantastic value in their FFP, great soft product, domestically at least good hard product, better CS than UA. Go for the status match.
#610
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Calif./Eastern Ida.
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if this poster is content with limited upgrade opportunities and/or paying for F, i'd recommend AS FFP. this is my "holding ground" for this year giving me the ability to test the waters of AS, DL, and AA plus a number of foreign carriers and bank miles centrally from all of them. so far i've flown DL twice in premium cabin (paid F domestic, paid J international) and flying AA for the first time in 10 years this coming week (MCE Y outbound, domestic premium TCON F return). the mileage redemption options are solid enough that it seems like a decent place to wait out the continuing crap storm going on in other FFPs, as well as objectively assess the potential good or bad outcome of the AA merger.
#611
Moderator: United Airlines
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#612
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
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if this poster is content with limited upgrade opportunities and/or paying for F, i'd recommend AS FFP. this is my "holding ground" for this year giving me the ability to test the waters of AS, DL, and AA plus a number of foreign carriers and bank miles centrally from all of them. so far i've flown DL twice in premium cabin (paid F domestic, paid J international) and flying AA for the first time in 10 years this coming week (MCE Y outbound, domestic premium TCON F return). the mileage redemption options are solid enough that it seems like a decent place to wait out the continuing crap storm going on in other FFPs, as well as objectively assess the potential good or bad outcome of the AA merger.
#613
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
Believing airline marketing material promising a certain level of benefits for achieving lifetime status is equally as foolish, as I've found out. Where were you in 1992 when I started accruing my lifetime status? Until UA announced changes to lifetime status over 2 years back, I did not see anyone posting warning signs on this forum. Seems like we have a number of posters looking back now telling us we should have known better.
Tom in Seoul
Tom in Seoul
#614
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,199
heres my 2 cents- but in NZ we no longer have pennies.
UA sucks. They do not appreciate the FF (maybe other than GS) and I hate when the SMIle wile taking things away. Reading the comments about DL and AA, they have been trying to compete to the bottom. I have 100K this year on *A but more than half on other than UA metal. Because of my traveling, *A is better than OW. FB is a far 3rd. I have another 100K in planned trips for 2014 and only one in biz on CX. I have used 1.5mil of my miles on trips for me or my relatives to avoid devaluation. I will never "switch" from UA but will avoid UA metal and squeeze in OW when possible.
A lot of the negative comments are justified. I have made a few of my own.
If I owned UA, I probably would be doing the same thing. When the power shifts back to the FF, the airlines will kiss our butts. That's the way life goes.
UA sucks. They do not appreciate the FF (maybe other than GS) and I hate when the SMIle wile taking things away. Reading the comments about DL and AA, they have been trying to compete to the bottom. I have 100K this year on *A but more than half on other than UA metal. Because of my traveling, *A is better than OW. FB is a far 3rd. I have another 100K in planned trips for 2014 and only one in biz on CX. I have used 1.5mil of my miles on trips for me or my relatives to avoid devaluation. I will never "switch" from UA but will avoid UA metal and squeeze in OW when possible.
A lot of the negative comments are justified. I have made a few of my own.
If I owned UA, I probably would be doing the same thing. When the power shifts back to the FF, the airlines will kiss our butts. That's the way life goes.
#615
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
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