Jan 1, 2014, 6:30 am
Last edit by: chrisl137
Please read these sources before posting in this thread: If you have calculated the PQDs for a trip at less than 80% of the total cost, you are very likely doing something wrong. Have you made sure to include the International Surcharge (YQ)? Have you read all of the materials linked above, and the frequently made points listed below?
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program. FMP (Frequently Made Points)
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points): Related Threads
Moderator's note:- First post from UA Insider (post 1)
- http://www.mileageplusupdates.com/faqs.html
- Additional answers from UA Insider (post 1387)
- more information about questions posed in this thread published to mileageplusupdates.com, per UA Insider
Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program.
- Will there be a calculator that shows PQD, and will that calculator be accurate?
- What exactly will count toward PQD?
United states:
Base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges
Flights flown by United, United Express, or Copa Airlines
Flights operated by a Star Alliance® or a MileagePlus partner airline and issued on a United ticket (ticket number starting with 016)
Economy Plus purchases
The value of ETCs if used as a form of payment on the checkout page
will count towards PQD.
Thus:- The amount of co-pay when using miles to upgrade..
- The cost of PQMs/RDMs purchased when using the premier / award accelerator..
- The face value e-certs and travel vouchers.. (still uncertainty on this since prelim PQDs appeared to include)
- The cost of a paid upgrade..
- An extra seat purchase (such as for a customer of size or a musical instrument); it does not presently count toward PQM.
- Change fees.
- How will PQD be determined for UA metal segments without 016 stock ticket?
- What happens if I depart in December and return in January?
Just like PQM, PQD for the applicable part of fare for the segment is credited based on the departure date (year) of the segment flown. Segment fares are calculated using standard rules of the past. For the case cited there would be PQD credited in DEC 2013 (no value) and PQD applied to 2014 applicable to 2014 and 2015 status renewal. - How will UA evaluate the address issue for the PQD exemption?
- It is not clear how the timing of achieving the minimum PQD requirement will impact earning RPUs and GPUs. Examples:
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- Do only 1Ks/GSs earn additional RPUs by flying beyond the 100k mark?
- If a 1K crosses the 100,000 PQM mark in January 201x, the $10,000 PQD mark on December 31 201x, and ends up flying a total of 200,000 PQMs for the year 201x, how many RPUs / GPUs will be earned?
- Will Platinums earn 2 RPUs when crossing the 75k mark but none at incremental levels thereafter (e.g. a Plat who flies 100k EQMs, but does not meet the 1K spend, would *not* earn two more RPUs)?
- If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
- How does IRROPs affect earning of PQDs?
- If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked non-UA/Copa metal, will one earn PQDs if rebooked onto UA?
- If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked on UA/Copa metal, but is rebooked onto non UA/Copa metal, will one still get credit for PQDs in these scenarios:
- The UA/Copa segment was the source of the irrops?
- The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is a *A or UA/Copa partner?
- The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is not a *A or UA/Copa partner?
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points):
- You might not be hitting the PQD minimums as easily as you think you are, given exceptions, taxes, and the existence of cheap fares.
- It is possible for leisure travelers and even some business travelers to average well under 10cpm. This doesn't just affect "leisure 1Ks" and people on the edge of categories.
- Presidential Plus card members (exempted from Silver/Gold/Plat PQD requirements) are most likely exempted because the FlexPQM program would complicate matters.
- Manufacturing $25,000 spend might not actually be so hard. There's a whole forum on it.
- The $25,000 spend can be done across multiple Chase MP cards, as long as the cards are tied to the same MileagePlus account.
- The exceptions don't really make sense where there is a revenue-sharing joint venture in place, such as with LH on TATL routes.
- Leaving UA for AA over objections to dollar-based status may be futile because all the majors will likely go to this model with the possible exception of the AS program which allows you to bank your DL and AA miles into one account (DL has already).
- UA is tracking spend on UA metal now.
- YQ, also known as the "international surcharge," is a carrier-imposed surcharge and is included in PQD.
- How to book 016 PQD earning tickets when no UA, UX, Copa metal flights are on itinerary.
- Do You Think UA Will Lose a Lot of Revenue With Less MR?
- Any Drawbacks from having MP account registered to foreign address?
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...nited-com.html
- Incorrect/Ineligible PQD/PQM/RDM Information showing on my itinerary.
Previous thread can be found here:
MileagePlus Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) Requirement Discussion [ARCHIVE]
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MileagePlus Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) Requirement Discussion Thread
Jan 12, 2014, 9:08 pm
#181
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Nope, Jan 5th to Jan 9th.
Jan 12, 2014, 9:14 pm
#182
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So, what do we think the go-to method for reporting PQD errors is?
Jan 12, 2014, 9:16 pm
#183
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Not sure about you, but My go-to very soon just might be aa.com. Zero tolerance for this crap.
Originally Posted by mgcsinc
So, what do we think the go-to method for reporting PQD errors is?
Jan 13, 2014, 10:22 am
#184
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My situation... I'm a pres plus cardholder and saved my FEQM to get to silver in January.
I did so on 1/11. My status immediately showed as Premier Silver.
I went back in and that status is now gone. I'm showing the PQS as waived, but I have 0 for PQD.
Upon reading the information for Premier qualification on the "My Account" page it clearly says that for 2014 the PQD is waived for Pres plus holders. So I call MP to find out what's going on. After being on hold for about 20 minutes, I'm told that by using the FEQM in January, I was getting status for 2015, and therefore, have to meet that $2500 PQD or spend $25k on the card.
Is this a HUCA situation?
I did so on 1/11. My status immediately showed as Premier Silver.
I went back in and that status is now gone. I'm showing the PQS as waived, but I have 0 for PQD.
Upon reading the information for Premier qualification on the "My Account" page it clearly says that for 2014 the PQD is waived for Pres plus holders. So I call MP to find out what's going on. After being on hold for about 20 minutes, I'm told that by using the FEQM in January, I was getting status for 2015, and therefore, have to meet that $2500 PQD or spend $25k on the card.
Is this a HUCA situation?
Jan 13, 2014, 10:46 am
#185
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Yeah, agents are wrong, but I am not sure if there is anything they can do until UA fixes the system to reflect the waiver assuming the system has you correctly flagged as a PPlus card holder, which I assume since the 4 seg-min is showing up as waived.
Jan 13, 2014, 10:51 am
#186
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Have you tried logging out and back in?
Jan 13, 2014, 10:55 am
#187
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Yes, the system shows I'm a cardholder and the 4 segment minimum states waived.Several times.
The status was there and then disappeared.
Jan 13, 2014, 10:59 am
#188
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My situation... I'm a pres plus cardholder and saved my FEQM to get to silver in January.
I did so on 1/11. My status immediately showed as Premier Silver.
I went back in and that status is now gone. I'm showing the PQS as waived, but I have 0 for PQD.
Upon reading the information for Premier qualification on the "My Account" page it clearly says that for 2014 the PQD is waived for Pres plus holders. So I call MP to find out what's going on. After being on hold for about 20 minutes, I'm told that by using the FEQM in January, I was getting status for 2015, and therefore, have to meet that $2500 PQD or spend $25k on the card.
Is this a HUCA situation?
I did so on 1/11. My status immediately showed as Premier Silver.
I went back in and that status is now gone. I'm showing the PQS as waived, but I have 0 for PQD.
Upon reading the information for Premier qualification on the "My Account" page it clearly says that for 2014 the PQD is waived for Pres plus holders. So I call MP to find out what's going on. After being on hold for about 20 minutes, I'm told that by using the FEQM in January, I was getting status for 2015, and therefore, have to meet that $2500 PQD or spend $25k on the card.
Is this a HUCA situation?
could be there are some items that must be met and by having the FEQMs all it does is do away with 1 of the items needed but not all of them, so you dont need to fly 25k but still need to meet the $2500 Spend threshold and fly on 4 UA legs
eg I fly EWR-FLL twice I have 4000+ EQMs but the FEQMs takes care of that, if I flew back on US via CLT all I have is 3 legs on UA short 1, if I spent $1900 on the 2 tkts Im still short, and wont be Silver. Or I fly EWR-IAH-FLL 1 time r/t thats 4 legs, the tkt cost me $2600 and I earned only 6000 EQMs, Im Silver due to the FEQMs, since I had 4 legs completed and my Spend was at least $2500
Last edited by craz; Jan 13, 2014 at 11:06 am
Jan 13, 2014, 11:02 am
#189
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I'm wondering too. I don't see where my spend is being tracked.
How does one get to speak with someone who knows what they're talking about rather than a robot in the Philippines who can only read from a script?
It also clearly states that I don't have to meet PQDs for 2014 status
How does one get to speak with someone who knows what they're talking about rather than a robot in the Philippines who can only read from a script?
It also clearly states that I don't have to meet PQDs for 2014 status
Last edited by Mary2e; Jan 13, 2014 at 11:09 am
Jan 13, 2014, 11:09 am
#190
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there is space (line) for it in the box when you log in. I dont think its real time yet Just as theres 1 for the 4 legs and EQMs. You have to remember we are still dealing with Shares and CO
Jan 13, 2014, 11:28 am
#191
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UPDATE:
After logging in and out numerous times over the last few days, and at least three times today, magically, after being told I had to meet the PQD, and me telling them they are wrong, I just looked, and it's showing premier silver again.
Let's see how long it holds this time
After logging in and out numerous times over the last few days, and at least three times today, magically, after being told I had to meet the PQD, and me telling them they are wrong, I just looked, and it's showing premier silver again.
Let's see how long it holds this time
Jan 13, 2014, 11:36 am
#192
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From the wiki: "It is possible for leisure travelers and even some business travelers to average well under 10cpm. This doesn't just affect "leisure 1Ks" and people on the edge of categories."
Just curious, what kind of routes would someone have to fly in order to average well under 10cpm?
Just curious, what kind of routes would someone have to fly in order to average well under 10cpm?
Jan 13, 2014, 12:42 pm
#193
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Jan 14, 2014, 2:51 pm
#194
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United PQD
Now that United is tracking $$, is there a database of airfares?
By airport of departure to airport of arrival, by fare class:
i.e, from EWR to IAH, Fare class G = $xxx.xx
By airport of departure to airport of arrival, by fare class:
i.e, from EWR to IAH, Fare class G = $xxx.xx
Jan 14, 2014, 2:57 pm
#195
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Yes. Go to the United website and try to buy a ticket. It will tell you the fare. 
(Fares don't work quite like you think they do. But in any case, nothing has changed. If you want to know the PQDs for a ticket, go try to buy it.)
(Fares don't work quite like you think they do. But in any case, nothing has changed. If you want to know the PQDs for a ticket, go try to buy it.)