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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 6:26 am
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United Reward Availability for other *A Programs

I am looking to fly east-west coast on United next summer using Lufthansa M&M miles.

There are blogs around discussing the use of Lufthansa miles in this regard, and they say if you can see a 'Saver' reward in the United booking engine, you can ring up Lufthansa and they will book those specific flights, as these 'Saver' flights are available for Lufthansa as a member of *A.

So, I searched United for flight from BOS-LAX on 12th August 2014, and there must be 6 or 7 different options pop up in first/economy class. Great I think, I've got a wide choice since I'm booking so early. Wrong!!

So I ring Lufthansa and all they can see is the one 6am flight connecting in Cleveland. They can't see the other 6 or so flights in that United says has 'Saver' availability, so I can't book them.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there a better website for me to see the United rewards availability open to other *A programs like Lufthansa M&M.

I'm confused and any help would be appreciated.

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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by Oil-man
I am looking to fly east-west coast on United next summer using Lufthansa M&M miles.

There are blogs around discussing the use of Lufthansa miles in this regard, and they say if you can see a 'Saver' reward in the United booking engine, you can ring up Lufthansa and they will book those specific flights, as these 'Saver' flights are available for Lufthansa as a member of *A.

So, I searched United for flight from BOS-LAX on 12th August 2014, and there must be 6 or 7 different options pop up in first/economy class. Great I think, I've got a wide choice since I'm booking so early. Wrong!!

So I ring Lufthansa and all they can see is the one 6am flight connecting in Cleveland. They can't see the other 6 or so flights in that United says has 'Saver' availability, so I can't book them.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there a better website for me to see the United rewards availability open to other *A programs like Lufthansa M&M.

I'm confused and any help would be appreciated.
For *A award availability the best place is the ANA award search site. I use the KVSTool to do award searches which uses my ANA account and queries ANA for avaiability. Here is what I see for BOS-CLE-LAX on 14 Aug 2014.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
BOS  Boston Logan Intl MA US [KBOS]
CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Intl OH US [KCLE]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
THU  14 Aug 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
UA         5613    BOS   06:00     CLE   07:58     CR7  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> UA     1542    CLE   08:55     LAX   10:49     738  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
UA         5275    BOS   09:45     CLE   11:43     ER4  0   FS/  CS/  YS-
 -> UA     1584    CLE   12:45     LAX   14:35     738  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
UA         5273    BOS   13:47     CLE   15:45     ER4  0   FS/  CS/  YS-
 -> UA     1659    CLE   18:00     LAX   19:55     738  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
So it appears that there is at least 1 business seat via CLE. I checked the 3 nonstop flights and there is nothing available on your travel date. You can connect via ORD in coach, but that is about it (no availability via EWR, IAD, or IAH).
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 7:56 am
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One-way fares on United in August of next year are $169. That is a far better use of money than miles (if you are looking to go in Y).
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by Oil-man
There are blogs around discussing the use of Lufthansa miles in this regard, and they say if you can see a 'Saver' reward in the United booking engine, you can ring up Lufthansa and they will book those specific flights, as these 'Saver' flights are available for Lufthansa as a member of *A.
That's not necessarily correct, as you have discovered. Airlines often make more tickets available to their own frequent flyers than to other airlines. Probably shouldn't be this way for a true alliance, but it happens. The advice to use the ANA search engine is a good one.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by noah
One-way fares on United in August of next year are $169. That is a far better use of money than miles (if you are looking to go in Y).
+1

I don't know how many miles LH requires for a one way coach award, but UA requires 12.5K for coach and 25K for business. Do you have to pay taxes and fuel surcharges on UA tickets?

I would get a cash ticket for well under $200 instead of redeeming miles.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 8:38 am
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Don't worry about it until next July. UA will open up lots of award seats (especially F) for non-stops in the last month but especially at T-14.
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