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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:27 am
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UA1639 Slides off runway at CLE

Inbound flight from FLL slides off the runway into the grass at CLE. UA.com still shows it arrived at the gate 17 mins early. So I wonder if this correct flight number.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/loc...tional-Airport

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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:32 am
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UA.com still shows it arrived at the gate 17 mins early. So I wonder if this correct flight number.
The article does say that all passengers and crew are in the terminal now, so perhaps the first rescue bus arrived at the terminal 17 mins early
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by 767400
Inbound flight from FLL slides off the runway into the grass at CLE. UA.com still shows it arrived at the gate 17 mins early. So I wonder if this correct flight number.
The Out, Off, On, and In times are reported automatically by the aircraft when certain conditions are met.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:36 am
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Florida pilots not knowing how to drive on snow

Interesting, the news report in the link says the plane slid off the runway "while taxiing" and not while landing. Could be wrong, but interesting if true.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by DCdeacon
Florida pilots not knowing how to drive on snow
Turn INTO the skid!
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by DCdeacon
Florida pilots not knowing how to drive on snow
Good line

How do you drive off a taxiway Or runway if it happened that early

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Old Feb 22, 2013, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by nnn
Turn INTO the skid!
Actually, out of curiosity, I wonder if it's easier to drive a plane on a runway in bad weather than a car. The problem with cars is that the wheels are also producing the force to move the car. Here, turning could be accomplished at least partially with differential thrust alone, no?

Maybe a pilot can enlighten me
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 12:11 pm
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Maybe a pilot can enlighten me
NOT a pilot, but when in SIM at IAH did the turns on taxiway using the "steering wheel" with my hands.

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Old Feb 22, 2013, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by DXjr
The Out, Off, On, and In times are reported automatically by the aircraft when certain conditions are met.
As George Carlin once said, being "on the ground" is a little vague when it comes to air travel.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 12:26 pm
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eliminating the power from the wheels does eliminate one hazard, but the tires still need traction to cause 100,000+lbs of aircraft to change directions.

either way, they incident report will read "pilot error".
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 12:36 pm
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Very slippery here in Cleveland this morning. There was a thin layer of ice on the ground from freezing rain overnight.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by astroflyer
Actually, out of curiosity, I wonder if it's easier to drive a plane on a runway in bad weather than a car. The problem with cars is that the wheels are also producing the force to move the car. Here, turning could be accomplished at least partially with differential thrust alone, no?

Maybe a pilot can enlighten me
Originally Posted by Biginch
eliminating the power from the wheels does eliminate one hazard, but the tires still need traction to cause 100,000+lbs of aircraft to change directions.

either way, they incident report will read "pilot error".
Yeah, may not take much to lose it on ice. See 737 Ice Drifting
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 1:13 pm
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UA1639 Slides off runway at CLE

PMCO had this happen in DEN too not too long back.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 1:25 pm
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anyone know if the icy conditions have improved? i'm flying home to CLE this evening.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 1:28 pm
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I hope they issue a waiver. I don't want to fly through CLE tonight!
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