Thread re-set time.
 

There's been far too much personalized discussion here among several members arguing about off-topic matters. The thread topic is NRT-SIN service changes and not meta-discussions about the intricacies of the airline's management.

Please keep to the topic and away from insulting members.

Thanks, Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.

The company invested close to a hundred million dollars on the new IPTE F product in 2007. There was a large multi year analysis done on retaining the F product, and in the end, it was not only retained, but expanded to the 763s. You don't make huge capital outlays like that when it "simply doesn't make sense". You can present this incomplete analysis all you want - it doesn't make it even remotely close to being true.

The future of the F product is a result of the Houston team not wanting to pony up the monetary expense, time, or risk to chase this market. Notice you do not hear senior management talking about making the new company "the most premium US carrier" as the last regime did. This is about making UA the largest airline in the skies, offering a midpack value product while ceding the premium markets to foreign boutiques almost entirely.

Folks, I'm really sorry but I just booked a C/J award with a NRT-SIN segment and I have no idea which of the many "Everything you always wanted to know about where to sit on nnn" threads to consult. Never flown a pmCO 777 in C/J. Traveling with CHGal. What's best for a couple?

Pick a bulkhead row. My favorite is 8. Take the right side (K/L) over A/B if you want the window.

Speaking of which...given that UA has been pushing all SIN-NRT connections to NH metal every time I've looked in the past few months (on W+ fares)...is there anybody left who would actually fly on the bird with United written on it?

One of the (many, many) factors which moved me away from UA was the sheer impossibility of buying an SWU-able fare which didn't include 7 hours in NH economy, or 4 hours on a 737. Now it's 95% too late for me to come back (although as somebody has in their signature, I suppose I could throw them 4 segments/year just to make sure I don't lose my status)

+1 These are great seats. I also enjoy 1K/L

So based on this thread, any ideas what this might mean?

The seat map is still showing a 3-class 777 pmUA aircraft. 2 rows of GF, 5 rows of 2-4-2 Business. What "updated seating configuration" would they be talking about, since I thought all of the 3-class birds had lay-flat seats, etc...

Is there a 3-class seatmap with 2 rows of GF that still has the barcaloungers??

Sounds to me like they expect the aircraft to be an old config 777, with 2 3 2 seating in Business (Barco loungers).

They might have not updated the seat map yet to reflect the switch.

Just curious, where are you seeing this message? Did you receive an email or is it noted on your reservation? Someplace else?

I actually did DEN-SEA-NRT-SIN (V fare) in late August. Of course, upgrade to C on NRT-SIN was such a battlefield. Three days before traveling, C was full booking (40/40 and all fare bucket actually zero out) and F was 6 out of 8.

On the day I traveled, C was 39/40 and I was on the waitlist no. 1. Got to NRT, I was down to no. 3 with 36/40. Eventually, two were cleared from C to F, and six (including me) from Y to C.

It has been like this for a while, and one UA supervisor at SIN told me numerous time that there are a lot of paid C and F in both local and transit traffic on NRT-SIN.

Received an email. A completely separate email from the check-in reminder, and all. It's the first such I've received -- which makes me think it's bad news if they went out of their way to tell me, in advance, that they're "apologizing for the inconvenience" of something that they didn't even say specifically what it was they're apologizing for!!

Yes, that does seem rather ominous. I wonder if it is a tactic to lessen the compensation requests for being "downgraded" to old equipment.

Interesting way to position / spin the message. To avoid your flight being delayed or cancelled, you will be in an old configuration. :rolleyes:

I got $400 earlier this year for the switch--an unsolicited bit of compensation, too. UA was handing out letters at check-in at LHR indicating we'd get "compensation of our choice," though I did have to follow-up repeatedly to get anything.

I found that high--I'd expected $150 or so--but didn't turn it down. Sounds like the prior poster isn't getting anything without complaining, based on that e-mail!

Didn't stop them from dropping SIN-HKG to a 737 then or removing F now. Very myopic planning.

Not true. Manila, Jakarta, Mumbai and many others are NH. In fact, the majority of intra-Asia flights are served by NH and not NQ (Air Japan.) Even Singapore is mainly (if not all) NH.

As I understand it NQ is just a way for NH to operate a route at a lower cost compared to NH proper, whether that means passenger traffic or cargo. (ANA Wings [EH] exists for similar reasons as an operator of domestic regional routes.) NQ uses some CAs that are based outside Japan, and they also have non-Japanese pilots on staff, both of which (I believe) NH proper does not do.

It has nothing to do with NRT vs. HND or intra-Asia vs. ROW as someone upthread stated.