Originally Posted by KPhill
(Post 18672577)
The ironic thing is that from my perspective, when I am traveling internationally using an upgrade or miles, it is a personal trip and because I usually have the wife and maybe even the kids with me, a downgrade would be a lot worse than when traveling by myself. So I wouldn't want to inflict that on someone in a similar situation.
UA screwed a paying Business class passenger and they are trying to get away with a $1200 voucher. I agree that if you would have been more vocal at the airport, somebody that was upgraded would have been sent back. It has happened to me and I am sure to many more. Do not accept it; do not write a "what's up??" letter. Email, call and send a snail mail to UA customer service and demand a refund. Do not expect an answer on your first attempt. |
Originally Posted by DeaconFlyer
(Post 18672631)
I feel like that this is a situation where, if you had been proactive, you would not have been downgraded. Stepping in and telling them that downgrading a paying passenger while there were upgrades is unacceptable, and involving a supervisor, would probably have gotten someone else booted back.
Plus checking in before you get to the airport would almost always prevent this sort of situation. I certainly agree that checking in before you get to the airport helps; perhaps that is the lesson here although I was a shade over two hours early for the flight. On the other hand I have had trouble with online check-in to GRU/GIG in the past because the online visa verification doesn't seem to work well. In any event, I was coming directly from a meeting and did not have a chance to stop at the office and print a boarding pass. |
Did they treat you like you were still in Business Class (drinks, meals, amenities)
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Originally Posted by MR_MAMA
(Post 18672701)
Did they treat you like you were still in Business Class (drinks, meals, amenities)
Originally Posted by keisari
(Post 18672669)
Stop being nice guy......
UA screwed a paying Business class passenger and they are trying to get away with a $1200 voucher. I agree that if you would have been more vocal at the airport, somebody that was upgraded would have been sent back. It has happened to me and I am sure to many more. Do not accept it; do not write a "what's up??" letter. Email, call and send a snail mail to UA customer service and demand a refund. Do not expect an answer on your first attempt. |
Originally Posted by KPhill
(Post 18672736)
Yes UA is worthless and yes I will demand a refund. But rather than getting myself all worked up I would prefer just to not fly UA on competitive routes if this is the way they do business. I don't need the hassle of writing letters and emailing and calling. Next week I will give TAM my $6600 rt.
If it makes you feel any better, I got downgraded once from full fare C to Y on BA - the refund went to my employer and I was SOL. |
Wonder if all the upgrades were for $, and they didn't want to refund the transactional / marginal revenue?
I have no idea what the comparison of $ is for refund of an involuntary downgrade versus refunding an upsale. Just a thought. Kudos to the OP for not wanting to inflict a downgrade on anyone else. Hopefully your good wishes will be rewarded. |
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 18672893)
Kudos to the OP for not wanting to inflict a downgrade on anyone else. Hopefully your good wishes will be rewarded. |
Originally Posted by keisari
(Post 18672669)
Stop being nice guy......
UA screwed a paying Business class passenger and they are trying to get away with a $1200 voucher. I agree that if you would have been more vocal at the airport, somebody that was upgraded would have been sent back. It has happened to me and I am sure to many more. Do not accept it; do not write a "what's up??" letter. Email, call and send a snail mail to UA customer service and demand a refund. Do not expect an answer on your first attempt.
Originally Posted by KPhill
(Post 18672736)
Yes UA is worthless and yes I will demand a refund. But rather than getting myself all worked up I would prefer just to not fly UA on competitive routes if this is the way they do business. I don't need the hassle of writing letters and emailing and calling. Next week I will give TAM my $6600 rt.
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I dont understand??? Why was he downgraded on a D fare and not an upgrade or someone on a Z fare? He should call his credit card company and deny the charge. Once UA figures out he did that they will contact him for payment and be willing to deal. Similar thing happened to me a few years ago (not a downgrade from a FF ticket) But I declined payment with Amex. When they asked the reason I said "did not get service I paid for" UA called me 2 months later demanding payment but when I explained why I put the stop on the charge they were more then happy to do what was right and get some money back
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Some things are just unfathomable and make no sense.
If I was upgraded to business and the FA said I had to be downgraded because there was no seat for a full-fare customer, I would not be happy but I would understand and be agreeable. If I had a full-fare ticket and they did this to me I would not accept it - period. I would ask for a refund and find another airline - probably for good. |
Originally Posted by KPhill
(Post 18672711)
Yes UA is worthless and yes I will demand a refund. But rather than getting myself all worked up I would prefer just to not fly UA on competitive routes if this is the way they do business. I don't need the hassle of writing letters and emailing and calling. Next week I will give TAM my $6600 rt.
chinatraderjmr, could you PM KPhill the SMI/J address you used for your "cancelled ticket" issues? E-mail SMI/J your TAM receipt for next week, along with your original UA receipt, and the a brief description of the downgrade. BAsicaly, to show SMI/J the real $$$ he is losing. @:-) |
Originally Posted by keisari
(Post 18672669)
Stop being nice guy......
UA screwed a paying Business class passenger and they are trying to get away with a $1200 voucher. I agree that if you would have been more vocal at the airport, somebody that was upgraded would have been sent back. It has happened to me and I am sure to many more. Do not accept it; do not write a "what's up??" letter. Email, call and send a snail mail to UA customer service and demand a refund. Do not expect an answer on your first attempt. I do agree that anyone that on the day of flight was UPed using any item to do so is a candidate for Downgrading. Otherwise if I was the last person that was UPed and if that was say 3 weeks ago and since CO oversold BF and they downgrade me as the last person who was UPed , CO would basically be saying well we UPed you but its not a gauranteed thing till the door is closed would drive most people away from ever flying CO |
Originally Posted by DeaconFlyer
(Post 18672631)
I feel like that this is a situation where, if you had been proactive, you would not have been downgraded. Stepping in and telling them that downgrading a paying passenger while there were upgrades is unacceptable, and involving a supervisor, would probably have gotten someone else booted back.
Plus checking in before you get to the airport would almost always prevent this sort of situation. Why does the customer HAVE to be proactive, he bought a Business Class ticket, in what world should a customer have to worry about this except in the airline industry... it seems like bait and switch to me especially if I understood correctly that he bought it same day. UA should have offered to fly him business on another airline at the very least. But I agree with the OP that is the right answer, fly the competition. I've started doing that with AA and I have had WONDERFUL experiences as an ExPlatinum, its how 1Ks used to be treated. |
Originally Posted by jhayes_1780
(Post 18673752)
IMhO.... (if those involved wants to do this):
chinatraderjmr, could you PM KPhill the SMI/J address you used for your "cancelled ticket" issues? E-mail SMI/J your TAM receipt for next week, along with your original UA receipt, and the a brief description of the downgrade. BAsicaly, to show SMI/J the real $$$ he is losing. @:-) |
I would definitely make sure UA knows you have decided to book with other carriers and show them proof via actual paid receipts. I guess they just downgraded the last few to check in as opposed to making offers to people to downgrade. Would think there would have been a few upgraders willing to take a downgrade voucher of $1k+....but what do I know.
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