Last edit by: Billiken
It has been reported that the compensation, via Electronic Travel Certificate, rules/schedule for passengers downgraded from F to Y are in SHARES system at: GG OVS DOWNGRADE
Agent could also search for "FRONT CBN OVERSALE"
1-1000 miles $200
1001-2000 miles $250
2001-3000 miles $500
3001-4000 miles $750 (was $1000)
4000-5000 miles $1000
5001+ miles $1,500
PLUS a refund of the miles/money/instrument used for upgrading, or if revenue, the fare difference between the fare paid and the lowest published fare available on the date of purchase.
The above applies only to day of departure downgrades.
Downgraded passengers on award tickets must contact the MP service center.
"...Service center determines if customer receives downgrade comp in addition to the ETC provided at the airport."
With thanks to Billiken for the original post.
UPDATED 15-FEB-2015 by Billiken
Agent could also search for "FRONT CBN OVERSALE"
1-1000 miles $200
1001-2000 miles $250
2001-3000 miles $500
3001-4000 miles $750 (was $1000)
4000-5000 miles $1000
5001+ miles $1,500
PLUS a refund of the miles/money/instrument used for upgrading, or if revenue, the fare difference between the fare paid and the lowest published fare available on the date of purchase.
The above applies only to day of departure downgrades.
Downgraded passengers on award tickets must contact the MP service center.
"...Service center determines if customer receives downgrade comp in addition to the ETC provided at the airport."
With thanks to Billiken for the original post.
UPDATED 15-FEB-2015 by Billiken
Downgraded from First/Business Class on United(Questions,Compensation, etc.)[ARCHIVE]
#1381
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,442
Just an update: Customer Service wrote me back and gave me an e-cert. I don't want to say how much but I'll say it was more than generous. What's more, they seemed to really take the time to read my feedback and acknowledge that this came about because of the refusal to issue me a new boarding pass upon clearing me into the standby-F seat. A great service recovery.
#1382
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DCA - PDX - LAX
Programs: AA Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, AS 75k
Posts: 780
It would be helpful for us to know to gauge what to expect, if you don't mind sharing.
#1383
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DCA - PDX - LAX
Programs: AA Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, AS 75k
Posts: 780
It would be helpful for us to know to gauge what to expect, if you don't mind sharing.
Originally Posted by villox
Just an update: Customer Service wrote me back and gave me an e-cert. I don't want to say how much but I'll say it was more than generous. What's more, they seemed to really take the time to read my feedback and acknowledge that this came about because of the refusal to issue me a new boarding pass upon clearing me into the standby-F seat. A great service recovery.
#1384
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Florida
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 675
I forgot about the downgrade comp so wanted to ask about a situation I had a few weeks ago.
My flight that I had cleared CPU on @ T-72 was oversold, and I accepted a proactive reroute onto AA at the ticket counter. So went from my confirmed F seat to a middle Y seat. Happened to be checking receipts today and noticed that my ticket was marked as INVOL. I can't remember if it's this thread or another one, but does having your ticket marked as INVOL trigger you to be eligible for downgrade compensation since I went from F to Y on another airline? (in UA's defense, the reroute was supposed to get me to my destination an hour sooner but I soon regretted my decision as I ended up being delayed on the AA flight and was in a middle Y seat).
Realize it's probably my own fault for not requesting any comp at the counter but wanted to check.
My flight that I had cleared CPU on @ T-72 was oversold, and I accepted a proactive reroute onto AA at the ticket counter. So went from my confirmed F seat to a middle Y seat. Happened to be checking receipts today and noticed that my ticket was marked as INVOL. I can't remember if it's this thread or another one, but does having your ticket marked as INVOL trigger you to be eligible for downgrade compensation since I went from F to Y on another airline? (in UA's defense, the reroute was supposed to get me to my destination an hour sooner but I soon regretted my decision as I ended up being delayed on the AA flight and was in a middle Y seat).
Realize it's probably my own fault for not requesting any comp at the counter but wanted to check.
#1385
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,243
My flight that I had cleared CPU on @ T-72 was oversold, and I accepted a proactive reroute onto AA at the ticket counter. So went from my confirmed F seat to a middle Y seat. Happened to be checking receipts today and noticed that my ticket was marked as INVOL. I can't remember if it's this thread or another one, but does having your ticket marked as INVOL trigger you to be eligible for downgrade compensation since I went from F to Y on another airline? (in UA's defense, the reroute was supposed to get me to my destination an hour sooner but I soon regretted my decision as I ended up being delayed on the AA flight and was in a middle Y seat).
#1386
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DCA - PDX - LAX
Programs: AA Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, AS 75k
Posts: 780
INVOL is helpful for getting ORC out of United, but AFAIK no impact for downgrade compensation. Since you were originally ticketed in Y and re-accommodated in Y on a different flight (of a different airline) I'm pretty sure you are not eligible for any kind of compensation, especially downgrade comp which is almost exclusively limited to being moved from F to Y on the same aircraft. That doesn't mean you couldn't try for a good will gesture, but I personally wouldn't hold my breath beyond ORC, since UA's position will likely be something along the lines of "the LA did you a favor by proactively putting you on an earlier-arriving OAL flight, and any issues with the OAL flight/delay/service should be brought to the OAL, so we don't owe you squat"
#1387
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 6
Hi,
Is United cutting down on compensation lately?
Currently gold, but should be 1k by end of august. I was traveling for work (SFO-IAD-BOS-SFO) in all paid business class, and the last leg BOS-SFO flight we were notified on the runway that the plane had mechanical problems and had to deplane. Safely first! On the next flight i was bumped from business to middle seat in coach. We also arrived in SFO 1.45 hours late.
I received a $200 voucher for the delayed arrival and the fare difference of Biz to coach as a credit back to my cc (i think they calculated the BOS-SFO leg to be around $250). But from the wiki it states 1001-2000 miles should result in $500 compensation when being downgraded. I contacted [email protected] and their response was:
Hi, Mr. XXX
We can empathize with the disappointment you have expressed. Please
understand United carefully reviews our guidelines regarding goodwill
compensation annually to make sure that they are properly aligned to
several determining factors. Our intentions are to find a mix of
meaningful options for our customers.
I understand that our goodwill offering cannot compensate you for the
undue anxiety which you experienced throughout this incident.
Nonetheless, this certificate is provided as a tangible expression of
our regret over what transpired when you traveled with us, and our
gratitude for your interest in United Airlines.
With that, I understand you are requesting a $500.00 flight voucher.
However, in the equitable fairness of other customers who have
experienced similar situations, I must respectfully decline this
request.
We appreciate you choosing us for your travels. We hope to welcome you
onboard again soon and will work to ensure that your future United
experiences are satisfactory in every respect.
Any comments or suggestions. Is this what we should expect from now on?
Is United cutting down on compensation lately?
Currently gold, but should be 1k by end of august. I was traveling for work (SFO-IAD-BOS-SFO) in all paid business class, and the last leg BOS-SFO flight we were notified on the runway that the plane had mechanical problems and had to deplane. Safely first! On the next flight i was bumped from business to middle seat in coach. We also arrived in SFO 1.45 hours late.
I received a $200 voucher for the delayed arrival and the fare difference of Biz to coach as a credit back to my cc (i think they calculated the BOS-SFO leg to be around $250). But from the wiki it states 1001-2000 miles should result in $500 compensation when being downgraded. I contacted [email protected] and their response was:
Hi, Mr. XXX
We can empathize with the disappointment you have expressed. Please
understand United carefully reviews our guidelines regarding goodwill
compensation annually to make sure that they are properly aligned to
several determining factors. Our intentions are to find a mix of
meaningful options for our customers.
I understand that our goodwill offering cannot compensate you for the
undue anxiety which you experienced throughout this incident.
Nonetheless, this certificate is provided as a tangible expression of
our regret over what transpired when you traveled with us, and our
gratitude for your interest in United Airlines.
With that, I understand you are requesting a $500.00 flight voucher.
However, in the equitable fairness of other customers who have
experienced similar situations, I must respectfully decline this
request.
We appreciate you choosing us for your travels. We hope to welcome you
onboard again soon and will work to ensure that your future United
experiences are satisfactory in every respect.
Any comments or suggestions. Is this what we should expect from now on?
#1388
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,782
#1389
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA LT Plat 2MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 67,187
... Currently gold, but should be 1k by end of august. I was traveling for work (SFO-IAD-BOS-SFO) in all paid business class, and the last leg BOS-SFO flight we were notified on the runway that the plane had mechanical problems and had to deplane. Safely first! On the next flight i was bumped from business to middle seat in coach. We also arrived in SFO 1.45 hours late..
If it was the same flight, what was the explanation?
If it was a new flight, did you ask about staying in the booked cabin but the next alternative was unacceptable -- so you "accepted" the cabin change?
#1390
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 6
Was your change from domestic F to economy on the same scheduled flight/same aircraft or were you rerouting to a different flight? They would be different compensation scenarios.
If it was the same flight, what was the explanation?
If it was a new flight, did you ask about staying in the booked cabin but the next alternative was unacceptable -- so you "accepted" the cabin change?
If it was the same flight, what was the explanation?
If it was a new flight, did you ask about staying in the booked cabin but the next alternative was unacceptable -- so you "accepted" the cabin change?
#1391
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,243
In the future if ticketed cabin is important enough to you, especially in the case of a mechanical issue you can request/demand that UA book the ticketed cabin on another airline. (Weather is a different story, of course)
Just over a year ago I had an GSA in JAX who was both incompetent and rude in addition to being entirely unhelpful in an almost identical situation (though after deplaning she wasn't even willing to consider rebooking me "until the flight cancels, not before" even though I would clearly misconnect and "you might just have to be happy in the back of the plane"). I just called reservations and they offered First on Delta or American with no prodding required. (UA's only remaining options were single-cabin aircraft in addition to getting me in obscenely late)
#1392
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 6
Thanks for the suggestion. Next time I will call reservations instead of dealing with the gate agent.
#1393
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Northern California
Programs: Inf Elite CO, lifetime AA Platinum
Posts: 1,937
Finding voucher
I recently had an involuntary downgrade. As it was close to departure they didn't have time to print a voucher and said that I could find the credit in my account using my zip code. Has anybody had to get their credit this way? Otherwise will ping United. Thanks.
#1394
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA LT Plat 2MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 67,187
Not aware of any online access to ETCs. You will need to call. BTW, have not seen anyone previously post that they were given this sort of instruction.
#1395
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 45
Involuntarily downgraded from paid Business class to economy (COS to YUL) by United due to United changing the flight time by 21 minutes a month out from flight. Call to customer service yielded 3 options: A) Accept their changes and receive a $250 travel certificate as credit B) Take a 6am flight with 5 hour layover in ORD C) cancel the flight for credit. Took option B. United credit is useless to us. This experience made us happy that we had already chosen and booked with other airlines (Delta, Hawaiian and even Frontier) for our future travel.