Astonishing debacle. UGS thinking of defecting.
#91
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Does anyone else find it disconcerting that there are dozens of posts in this thread giving props to ...United IT?
C'mon, folks - there is simply no chance that United's IT team was better than Continental's. They may not have been worse, but they could't have been better: they were HORRIBLE. We didn't call it ".bomb" because it was great! The FastAir system was a GUI wrapped around a term server application, and while Shares may be character-based, that isn't necessarily slower than a GUI when an experienced user is running the app - and it isn't "DOS".
This is a massive system changeover and it will take a good long while before the UA CSR's catch up. I'm not defending Smisek - every dollar he's saved so far has negatively impacted our service and I'm still looking closely for even one "Change(s) I'm going to like" - but most of the integrated system glitches to date are forgivable for the first few weeks.
C'mon, folks - there is simply no chance that United's IT team was better than Continental's. They may not have been worse, but they could't have been better: they were HORRIBLE. We didn't call it ".bomb" because it was great! The FastAir system was a GUI wrapped around a term server application, and while Shares may be character-based, that isn't necessarily slower than a GUI when an experienced user is running the app - and it isn't "DOS".
This is a massive system changeover and it will take a good long while before the UA CSR's catch up. I'm not defending Smisek - every dollar he's saved so far has negatively impacted our service and I'm still looking closely for even one "Change(s) I'm going to like" - but most of the integrated system glitches to date are forgivable for the first few weeks.
#92
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I think it's going to be years (literally) before they can get back to the service level PMUA customers were used to. Software needs to be written, employees need real training, and policies need to be fixed. In the end it won't be exactly like the old days, but it will be comparable: there will be things we can do online instead of having to call for them. But phone queues will be back to minutes at worst, airport agents will be quick and effective, and ticketing might even be instant.
#93
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When I checked in for a flight at BWI last week, agents were paired (one PMUA and one PMCO). They would help each other complete an activity. The PMUA agent who assisted me said he thought the new system was very easy to use.
#94
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Absolutely where the smart money is heading these days. Its a net move away from United.
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#95
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I just called GS to do a same day change for the domestic portion of an international itinerary that begins in less than 24 hours. The call was answered in about a minute. The GS agent had to ask for help twice as there were some complications, but eventually got it done. She was very apologetic about the length of time it took, and was quite pleasant throughout the process. I'm willing to give things a chance to settle down -- this is a two-week multi-country Pacific trip upcoming, and I have another one being planned for next month.
#96
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I have talked to a number of GS members on my flights and we all have agreed: we miss the old UA! We don't blame the airport staff, or flight attendants, or the customer service reps. We blamed the CEO of turning UA to CO.
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#98
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This is not the old CO either. What we have now is neither PMUA or PMCO. Sadly it is a shadow of both.
We should stop this us versus them (from either side). We are now all in the same boat. The new UA is something new and different and so far, just terrible. It will either get better or get worse. That is up to the new management. Unfortunately it appears to be headed downward and it is the culture of the new airline. Blame them for this mess, but it's not accurate to blame PMCO for this. Granted, things under the current CEO was headed downward before the merger, but what is happening now is not what Continental was previously.
That's just my two cents.
We should stop this us versus them (from either side). We are now all in the same boat. The new UA is something new and different and so far, just terrible. It will either get better or get worse. That is up to the new management. Unfortunately it appears to be headed downward and it is the culture of the new airline. Blame them for this mess, but it's not accurate to blame PMCO for this. Granted, things under the current CEO was headed downward before the merger, but what is happening now is not what Continental was previously.
That's just my two cents.
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This is not the old CO either. What we have now is neither PMUA or PMCO. Sadly it is a shadow of both.
We should stop this us versus them (from either side). We are now all in the same boat. The new UA is something new and different and so far, just terrible. It will either get better or get worse. That is up to the new management. Unfortunately it appears to be headed downward and it is the culture of the new airline. Blame them for this mess, but it's not accurate to blame PMCO for this. Granted, things under the current CEO was headed downward before the merger, but what is happening now is not what Continental was previously.
That's just my two cents.
We should stop this us versus them (from either side). We are now all in the same boat. The new UA is something new and different and so far, just terrible. It will either get better or get worse. That is up to the new management. Unfortunately it appears to be headed downward and it is the culture of the new airline. Blame them for this mess, but it's not accurate to blame PMCO for this. Granted, things under the current CEO was headed downward before the merger, but what is happening now is not what Continental was previously.
That's just my two cents.
tim in san jose
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