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Old Jul 28, 2012, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by LarkSFO
Do you have elite staus on any airline yet?

If no, I would try kayaking to begin with (price / schedule / convenience drives your choice in carrier).

If you start traveling more, and decide to focus on a single airline to gain status, then your time as a kayaker will hopefully help you determine which is your best choice.
Not yet. That said, I'm an experienced traveler - I use UA a *lot* mainly because they basically own IAD for all intents and purposes and are close in SFO. I always check Kayak, but flying out of either airport, UA simply offers the best selection of non-stops. Price wise, they are usually within a few bucks of being the cheapest.

I also have the excellent United Select Visa (the old one that earns 3miles for United purchase, 2 for dining/gas/grocery, 1 for everything else). That plus a few transcons and the miles rack up fast.

For those reasons, I usually focus my travel on United unless the price difference is meaningful. I am actually VERY close to status this year on United. If I push it, I could probably hit Premier Silver. That said... I'm not sure how much Premier Silver is really worth. E+ at booking would be huge, but since that benefit was removed, I'm not sure Silver is really that much of an upgrade, esp on elite heavy SFO-IAD. I could get most of the benefits and then some with the Club credit card.

On SFO-IAD, UA and VX seem to be about the same price most of the time. I prefer UA for the miles (Elevate being based on spend rather than miles is not good for long flights, especially a long flight at a good price) and for E+. But the WiFi thing may push me to VX for at least some of my trips.
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Old Jul 28, 2012, 10:02 pm
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Are the current F seats the standard sCO or sUA seats or something else? How about the future seats? I really don't like the sCO seats and am hoping they go with something else...
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Old Jul 28, 2012, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by lensman
This comes up every month or and is addressed in another apparently hard-to-find thread.

The conclusion to these threads is that UA is, for now, having Boeing deliver their new 739s with temporary seats and having them refitted with their new BAE seats with IFE. If these are being delivered with temporary seats with power but no IFE, that's a new development.

739 deliveries with E+ is also a relatively new, but known, development.

The UA equipment tracking site:
https://sites.google.com/site/united...fleet-tracking

The FlyerTalk thread discussing the site and updates:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...t-updates.html
Yeah, like my DEN > SFO plane the other day. No power or IFE ... But pretty blue leather

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Old Jul 28, 2012, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Azmordean
Not yet. That said, I'm an experienced traveler - I use UA a *lot* mainly because they basically own IAD for all intents and purposes and are close in SFO. I always check Kayak, but flying out of either airport, UA simply offers the best selection of non-stops. Price wise, they are usually within a few bucks of being the cheapest.

I also have the excellent United Select Visa (the old one that earns 3miles for United purchase, 2 for dining/gas/grocery, 1 for everything else). That plus a few transcons and the miles rack up fast.

For those reasons, I usually focus my travel on United unless the price difference is meaningful. I am actually VERY close to status this year on United. If I push it, I could probably hit Premier Silver. That said... I'm not sure how much Premier Silver is really worth. E+ at booking would be huge, but since that benefit was removed, I'm not sure Silver is really that much of an upgrade, esp on elite heavy SFO-IAD. I could get most of the benefits and then some with the Club credit card.

On SFO-IAD, UA and VX seem to be about the same price most of the time. I prefer UA for the miles (Elevate being based on spend rather than miles is not good for long flights, especially a long flight at a good price) and for E+. But the WiFi thing may push me to VX for at least some of my trips.
Excellent analysis. You touch on the points that are important to you.

My new conclusion: You should stick with UA.

I have the select visa too, and I like it. The 5000 PQM (for UA.com spend) are an additional big benefit that I value.
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Old Jul 28, 2012, 10:45 pm
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UA proposed Wifi with Video streamed content is storing the video content LOCALLY; it is NOT coming through the broadband connection. A few IFE suppliers already had this on their product plans before United announced it.
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Old Jul 28, 2012, 11:16 pm
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Originally Posted by PortableGorilla
Are the current F seats the standard sCO or sUA seats or something else? How about the future seats? I really don't like the sCO seats and am hoping they go with something else...
The F seats on the new aircraft resemble very closely to the United Express E170 seats. Though, we will naturally, probably, get CO style seats when they decide to finally outfit these aircraft properly.
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 3:01 am
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Closely-related thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...38-planes.html
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by PortableGorilla
Are the current F seats the standard sCO or sUA seats or something else? How about the future seats? I really don't like the sCO seats and am hoping they go with something else...
They may be the "temporary" AS seats they've been using - not clear if they're delivering any "dark birds" with the big boxy sCO F seats that I and many others dislike.

But that brings up a good question going forward - we know they're choosing all-sCO seats for new int'l birds. And I'm guessing all existing 73x deliveries will get the checkerboard pattern seats and boxy F. But when the new big orders start (like the new 150), are they going to continue with those things...
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by wazzuFreddo
IFE does nothing for me. Most of the time I sleep or read a book, it make the time go faster.
+1

The only good IFE is ch. 9 ATC and of course watching the map on long flights. The rest, particularly live tv, is a distraction from the joy of flying.
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Old Aug 1, 2012, 2:11 pm
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a first!

took a flt back from the west coast to ORD last nite and there was no entertainment. no music, no movie...zippo....never seen that before...made the flt extraordinarily long.
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Old Aug 1, 2012, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jacroweORD
took a flt back from the west coast to ORD last nite and there was no entertainment. no music, no movie...zippo....never seen that before...made the flt extraordinarily long.
You must have been on one of these: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...west-739s.html
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Old Aug 1, 2012, 2:14 pm
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yes, musta been...as a new plane they had the most uncomfortable F seats ever...i could actually feel the metal in the seat on my back. Crew was great tho!
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Old Sep 4, 2012, 7:09 am
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Just flew the 737-900 last month from EWR-SEA. 5 weeks old the attendant said, was quite excited to be on a brand new plane. The excitement quickly ended once I realized it was the equivalent of a Civic DX, nice and shiny but no features other than a seat and engine, lol. (AC was included, but the window didn't roll down.)

Here's a quick review if you're interested.
http://hktravelblog.com/2012/08/unit...r-sea-nrt-hkg/
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Old Sep 18, 2012, 6:00 am
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I flew a dark 737-900 SFO to BOS on Sunday. No IFE but at least the cabin was relatively quiet (no loud talkers) and new, and I moved to a seat with an empty seat next to it.

UA really should get it fixed.
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Old Sep 18, 2012, 10:48 am
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Boeing 737-900

I flew the Boeing 737-900 from IAH to SJC last night. It was a brand spanking new aircraft, and reasonably comfortable in the F cabin. What was surprising, though, was that there were no Audio or Video amenities - no overhead video, not even somewhere to plug in a headset. (Of course the good thing with that was that I spared Mr Smisek's 'welcome'!)

You'd be hard-pressed to purchase a new car with no audio entertainment.. how does UA manage to score a new plane without it? I guess they did not upgrade to the 'sports package'.

Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; Sep 18, 2012 at 11:48 am Reason: merged with existing thread on this topic
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