Consolidated Global Services Thread - Qualifications, Benefits and Q & A [2012]
#271
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Programs: United 1K (after 15 years GS) 3MM, Marriott LTTitanium
Posts: 559
#272
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 99
I didn't ask for the challege directly, but wrote the Global Services email after I was informed I didn't make it (pre-3/3, when we actually got timely responses) and asked them to reconsider since the 67K FF miles I flew (mainly domestic Y and B class) was more than enough historically. They wrote back offering the revenue challenge that others have received, $15K of flown spend in 90 days. Normally a daunting task, but this winter it looks like I'll just make it. I bet a similar requalification challenge is there for the asking, in the unlikely event you can get through to anyone.
Anyone else with post-3/3 experiences with the special GS unpublished perks?
Anyone else with post-3/3 experiences with the special GS unpublished perks?
#273
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Programs: United 1K (after 15 years GS) 3MM, Marriott LTTitanium
Posts: 559
Thanks.
Thanks. Not sure that I want to beg. I have over 15K booked. Guess that is why I didn't get an offer.
#274
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
A better question
How many GS are now determined to not make GS for next year based on the past two weeks and/or likely lessened GS treatment compared to PMUA?
#275
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SLC, FRA, SFO
Programs: UA: GS, 1.5MM, LH-FT, SQ A380 First Flight
Posts: 10
... after all they are going through a very singular and unusual time right now.
But the day will come when their grace period is up. And I sure hope I will be a happy camper by then again.
LH has put together a very nice hard product in intl. F and their soft product has allways been great.
#276
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA ExPlat; UA GS (via MM companion); SPG
Posts: 362
Possible to get on upgrade waitlist when upgrading award seats?
Here's the deal:
Booked me+1 on a saver economy transatlantic award flight (the leg I want is UA metal) in October.
Want to apply 2 GPUs and waitlist for business seats.
Called GS line late last night, was told that wasn't possible, that instead, must watch for award availability (R or RN) and call when I see it.
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
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Is that correct? (No waitlisting when trying to upgrade with instruments off award seats as a GS?)
I can set up ExpertFlyer alerts, but this would still be suboptimal vs waitlisting, esp if a split-PNR waitlist was possible with the +1 also receiving my status on the list.
Thanks.
Booked me+1 on a saver economy transatlantic award flight (the leg I want is UA metal) in October.
Want to apply 2 GPUs and waitlist for business seats.
Called GS line late last night, was told that wasn't possible, that instead, must watch for award availability (R or RN) and call when I see it.
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
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Is that correct? (No waitlisting when trying to upgrade with instruments off award seats as a GS?)
I can set up ExpertFlyer alerts, but this would still be suboptimal vs waitlisting, esp if a split-PNR waitlist was possible with the +1 also receiving my status on the list.
Thanks.
#277
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Ambassador/Plat, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 590
Here's the deal:
Booked me+1 on a saver economy transatlantic award flight (the leg I want is UA metal) in October.
Want to apply 2 GPUs and waitlist for business seats.
Called GS line late last night, was told that wasn't possible, that instead, must watch for award availability (R or RN) and call when I see it.
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
------------
Is that correct? (No waitlisting when trying to upgrade with instruments off award seats as a GS?)
I can set up ExpertFlyer alerts, but this would still be suboptimal vs waitlisting, esp if a split-PNR waitlist was possible with the +1 also receiving my status on the list.
Thanks.
Booked me+1 on a saver economy transatlantic award flight (the leg I want is UA metal) in October.
Want to apply 2 GPUs and waitlist for business seats.
Called GS line late last night, was told that wasn't possible, that instead, must watch for award availability (R or RN) and call when I see it.
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
------------
Is that correct? (No waitlisting when trying to upgrade with instruments off award seats as a GS?)
I can set up ExpertFlyer alerts, but this would still be suboptimal vs waitlisting, esp if a split-PNR waitlist was possible with the +1 also receiving my status on the list.
Thanks.
#278
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA ExPlat; UA GS (via MM companion); SPG
Posts: 362
#279
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 99
Here's the deal:
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
Asked about needing 2 vs 1 at a time. There, they said if only 1 award seat showed up at a time, could split PNR no prob as the +1 (Mom, no status) would inherit my status since I'd used my miles & GPU, and upgrade the +1, then wait for another occasion of R,RN > 0.
However, I imagine that this enhancement is probably more than offset by what I assume to be the new situation with upgrades at the airport. Under PMUA, if you were on an award ticket and R never opened up before the day of the flight, you just told the check-in agent to add you and your companion to the upgrade list at the airport supported by your instrument, and you would clear under normal rules. Now, with the new restrictions on requesting an upgrade within 24 hours, I imagine that this is no longer possible--either you see the R space in advance, or you're never going to get it. Experiences/thoughts on this?
#280
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA ExPlat; UA GS (via MM companion); SPG
Posts: 362
How bout the 5 seats / 5 days rule for pushing through an upgrade? Will they still apply that one if the base seats are award seats?
If so, might make up for the 24-hour no-new-upgrades "limitation"...
If so, might make up for the 24-hour no-new-upgrades "limitation"...
#281
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2
I'm a UA 1K, probably spent $70,000 ($30K UA, $20K Singapore, $20K Other) in 2011.
I've already spent about $10K with UA YTD and about to purchase another $15K worth of Int'l travel and have a budget of $80K for the year (last doesn't include my team of 50).
Do I spread it across partner airlines for non-stop ease-of-travel (example: EWR-SIN x 3 trips this year) or dedicate and "hope" for GS?
I've never been GS, so I have no idea ...
I've already spent about $10K with UA YTD and about to purchase another $15K worth of Int'l travel and have a budget of $80K for the year (last doesn't include my team of 50).
Do I spread it across partner airlines for non-stop ease-of-travel (example: EWR-SIN x 3 trips this year) or dedicate and "hope" for GS?
I've never been GS, so I have no idea ...
#282
Join Date: May 2005
Programs: UA
Posts: 1,775
I'm a UA 1K, probably spent $70,000 ($30K UA, $20K Singapore, $20K Other) in 2011.
I've already spent about $10K with UA YTD and about to purchase another $15K worth of Int'l travel and have a budget of $80K for the year (last doesn't include my team of 50).
Do I spread it across partner airlines for non-stop ease-of-travel (example: EWR-SIN x 3 trips this year) or dedicate and "hope" for GS?
I've never been GS, so I have no idea ...
I've already spent about $10K with UA YTD and about to purchase another $15K worth of Int'l travel and have a budget of $80K for the year (last doesn't include my team of 50).
Do I spread it across partner airlines for non-stop ease-of-travel (example: EWR-SIN x 3 trips this year) or dedicate and "hope" for GS?
I've never been GS, so I have no idea ...
If you travel also a lot inside the US and want free upgraded on those trips it can be worth it. If you are international only and always fly in premium class (C or F) I would just go for the better airline / better flight time.
I am currently GS and considering dropping down to 1K and fly A* partners. I will miss on some US upgrades but I don't fly enough domestic to really care that much. Also I already pick F9 and WN (gasp) if their US schedule suits me better. I can be in Y for 2 hours if I am home earlier.
If you spend 80k with most of it in premium classes you would for sure get GS. You can read on the additional advantages you will have with GS and need to decide if any of them are worth it to you.
#283
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2
What is your travel pattern / what do you try to get out of GS ?
If you travel also a lot inside the US and want free upgraded on those trips it can be worth it. If you are international only and always fly in premium class (C or F) I would just go for the better airline / better flight time.
I am currently GS and considering dropping down to 1K and fly A* partners. I will miss on some US upgrades but I don't fly enough domestic to really care that much. Also I already pick F9 and WN (gasp) if their US schedule suits me better. I can be in Y for 2 hours if I am home earlier.
If you spend 80k with most of it in premium classes you would for sure get GS. You can read on the additional advantages you will have with GS and need to decide if any of them are worth it to you.
If you travel also a lot inside the US and want free upgraded on those trips it can be worth it. If you are international only and always fly in premium class (C or F) I would just go for the better airline / better flight time.
I am currently GS and considering dropping down to 1K and fly A* partners. I will miss on some US upgrades but I don't fly enough domestic to really care that much. Also I already pick F9 and WN (gasp) if their US schedule suits me better. I can be in Y for 2 hours if I am home earlier.
If you spend 80k with most of it in premium classes you would for sure get GS. You can read on the additional advantages you will have with GS and need to decide if any of them are worth it to you.
What do I hope to get out of it? Honestly, I would spend more with a particular airline if I felt they were trying to make my travel more enjoyable and easier. In 2011, I traveled close to 150,000 miles on Y, B, M or similar and felt not one ounce of love as a Platinum ... was rarely ever cleared for upgrades until boarding time, and three times I was already in my coach seat when the upgrade cleared. Appreciated, but a painful process.
Flying ain't what it used to be :/
#284
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oxfordshire
Programs: UA 1K MM, BA Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 149
[QUOTE
-Ability to open award and upgrade First and Business seats when none are available.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if this has been addressed but I could not find it in the thread. Are GSs able to get First or Business seat awards opened up for them still?
I had a discussion with an extremely rude and unprofessional GS Supervisor the other night (after the prequisite 1 hour hold), who told me that that they no longer open up award seats for GS. I was asking as UA had messed up an existing reservation and thought as a favor they could open a seat for me to make up for their error.
Is this true or is this a mis-informed supervisor?
-Ability to open award and upgrade First and Business seats when none are available.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if this has been addressed but I could not find it in the thread. Are GSs able to get First or Business seat awards opened up for them still?
I had a discussion with an extremely rude and unprofessional GS Supervisor the other night (after the prequisite 1 hour hold), who told me that that they no longer open up award seats for GS. I was asking as UA had messed up an existing reservation and thought as a favor they could open a seat for me to make up for their error.
Is this true or is this a mis-informed supervisor?
#285
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: IAH
Programs: UA/CO-GS/PPlat,AA-Gold,SPG-Plat,Hilton-Diamond,Marriott-Plat,Hertz-Pres_Circe
Posts: 824
I had a discussion with an extremely rude and unprofessional GS Supervisor the other night (after the prequisite 1 hour hold), who told me that that they no longer open up award seats for GS. I was asking as UA had messed up an existing reservation and thought as a favor they could open a seat for me to make up for their error.
Is this true or is this a mis-informed supervisor?[/QUOTE]
CO did not, and I don't think this is the case anymore for opening inventory.
Also I think instead of 5/5 it is now tied to specific inventory buckets (sometime last seat). In 2 cabin I believe it's PN