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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:38 am
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Is Bulkhead going to be E++?

Can someone enlighten me on how the new United is going to view bulkhead seating? I am but a lowly Premier. I understand I don't get dibs at exit rows on either airline. However, UA let's me book the bulkheads in advance as part of E+, wheres on legacy CO equipment they do not. Has any official word come out on this?
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:45 am
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No announcements yet that I am aware of
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...er-thread.html

As CO adds E+ and the airlines start to work as a single airline, this is one of many items to be reviewed. UA restricts exit rows to 1P and higher, so it would seem likely the continuation of restricted seating areas
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by harold
Can someone enlighten me on how the new United is going to view bulkhead seating? I am but a lowly Premier. I understand I don't get dibs at exit rows on either airline. However, UA let's me book the bulkheads in advance as part of E+, wheres on legacy CO equipment they do not. Has any official word come out on this?
On UA metal, the bulkhead is part of E+. I don't think it is restricted like exit rows are, so I believe that anyone who has paid for or has rights to book E+ can book the bulkhead. I don't see why CO will treat it any differently, especially given that bulkhead seats are sold/booked as ELR today.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by seacarl
On UA metal, the bulkhead is part of E+. I don't think it is restricted like exit rows are, so I believe that anyone who has paid for or has rights to book E+ can book the bulkhead. I don't see why CO will treat it any differently, especially given that bulkhead seats are sold/booked as ELR today.
The only difference (IIRC) on CO is that the bulkheads are usually blocked as 'special assistance' seating until T-24.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Critic
The only difference (IIRC) on CO is that the bulkheads are usually blocked as 'special assistance' seating until T-24.
I have been able to select bulkhead seats on CO at time of ticketing.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Critic
The only difference (IIRC) on CO is that the bulkheads are usually blocked as 'special assistance' seating until T-24.
And for UA, it depends on the aircraft-such as the 319 & 320 where the b/h row aisle seat on the right is blocked (and sometimes the middle seat next to it is blocked as well)
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
UA restricts exit rows to 1P and higher, so it would seem likely the continuation of restricted seating areas
That's almost the same as the CO policy - exit rows can be pre booked by 1P/Gold and above at any time for free. Silvers/2P can get them for free at on line check in.

With that in mind I'd imagine that once the systems are merged all elites will be able to book into E+ at any time for free, with a few seats (bulkheads plus maybe a couple of others) not available to 2P/Silver until OLCI.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Critic
The only difference (IIRC) on CO is that the bulkheads are usually blocked as 'special assistance' seating until T-24.
On CO usually only 1 bulkhead seat is blocked out for special assistance which is 7D on a 737 and 8D on a 752.

2P/silver won't see any of those seats free up until OLCI.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by rruaco
...With that in mind I'd imagine that once the systems are merged all elites will be able to book into E+ at any time for free, with a few seats (bulkheads plus maybe a couple of others) not available to 2P/Silver until OLCI.
no need to wait, that is essentially the policy today (tossing in exit rows for 1P/Gold and above)
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 2:33 pm
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OK, so we don't know yet how they are going to treat the bulkhead in a post- single-operating-certificate environment. Given that airlines usually do what is in their best interest (they are a business after all) I would bet that they will take the current CO policy and charge a Premier for it. Time will tell.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by harold
OK, so we don't know yet how they are going to treat the bulkhead in a post- single-operating-certificate environment. Given that airlines usually do what is in their best interest (they are a business after all) I would bet that they will take the current CO policy and charge a Premier for it. Time will tell.
A Premier/Silver would only be charged for a bulkhead seat prior to T-24. They can book any other seat in the Elite Zone except exit rows at time of ticketing, and the exits/bulkheads open up at OLCI. How is that different than how UA handles exit rows today?
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Critic
A Premier/Silver would only be charged for a bulkhead seat prior to T-24. They can book any other seat in the Elite Zone except exit rows at time of ticketing, and the exits/bulkheads open up at OLCI. How is that different than how UA handles exit rows today?
1P (Gold) or higher can book exit rows in advance, others can access exit rows if available at the airport.
Bulkheads in E+ are just considered E+, with standard E+ access rules.

Exit rows are the primo E+ space, bulkheads are not considered that different from rest of E+. Most bulkheads don't have that much extra leg space over E+ BUT (to me) the lack of someone reclining into you is a significant difference.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Most bulkheads don't have that much extra leg space over E+ BUT (to me) the lack of someone reclining into you is a significant difference.
I have pretty short legs so I don't care too much about legroom. What I do place at a premium is "face-room." I like as much room as possible between my face and the next physical object in front of it. Another advantage of bulkheads, you get off the plane quicker. I enjoy plane rides but when it's over, I want to get off ASAP.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 9:40 am
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I'm over six feet, and the bulkheads on the Airbus are very generous. I'd just as soon sit there as the exit rows, since as someone else pointed out, I'm off the plane sooner. Which again, is why I hope the new UA doesn't block them for Premiers as CO has done to their Silvers.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by harold
I hope the new UA doesn't block them for Premiers as CO has done to their Silvers.
It was much more necessary to do so on the CO fleet, because of the much smaller number of extra leg room seats (~12 vs 40+).

Once the CO fleet is switched over to E+ this pressure won't exist.
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