What class will domestic F be considered in new airline?
May 11, 2011, 2:30 am
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What class will domestic F be considered in new airline?
CO currently classifies domestic F as business whereas UA does it as First. This makes a difference because some airlines insist on charging the rate for first when redeeming miles.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
May 11, 2011, 8:06 am
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CO currently classifies domestic F as business whereas UA does it as First. This makes a difference because some airlines insist on charging the rate for first when redeeming miles.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
May 11, 2011, 8:27 am
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CO currently classifies domestic F as business whereas UA does it as First. This makes a difference because some airlines insist on charging the rate for first when redeeming miles.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
I am deciding if I want to transfer some points to ANA and if I knew that domestic first would be classified as business than the miles would be more appealing. I would guess though that they will start to call it F.
I think you mean when redeeming miles?
And really we have no idea. It makes no difference if you're using UA or CO miles, as 2-cabin F is priced the same as business. The only issue is with int'l programs who don't distinguish what you're flying, rather what bucket they choose to publish to.
May 11, 2011, 8:43 am
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CO codes their domestic F as business though eg. Z etc. So when using a foreign airlines ff program you can use business awards to redeem for it, when they restrict domestic F when redeeming for business.
May 11, 2011, 10:04 am
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I think you mean when redeeming miles?
And really we have no idea. It makes no difference if you're using UA or CO miles, as 2-cabin F is priced the same as business. The only issue is with int'l programs who don't distinguish what you're flying, rather what bucket they choose to publish to.
And really we have no idea. It makes no difference if you're using UA or CO miles, as 2-cabin F is priced the same as business. The only issue is with int'l programs who don't distinguish what you're flying, rather what bucket they choose to publish to.
Example: US Mainland to Hawaii BMI redeption for UA F 100,000, but only 60,000 for CO.
May 11, 2011, 10:10 am
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May 11, 2011, 11:52 am
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Yes. I meant F with regard to redeeming miles. My experience comes directly from using BMI miles. When using US domestic flights I was able to pay far less using CO flights rather than UA or US. This was because CO flights were coded as business and thus required only 60% of the miles that F did.
This matters to me because I am trying to decide whether to take Amex points into CO or into ANA. If I could redeem at the business level on ANA then big advantage to ANA. If I have to pay F then things swing back in the direction of CO.
This matters to me because I am trying to decide whether to take Amex points into CO or into ANA. If I could redeem at the business level on ANA then big advantage to ANA. If I have to pay F then things swing back in the direction of CO.
May 11, 2011, 2:26 pm
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Yes. I meant F with regard to redeeming miles. My experience comes directly from using BMI miles. When using US domestic flights I was able to pay far less using CO flights rather than UA or US. This was because CO flights were coded as business and thus required only 60% of the miles that F did.
This matters to me because I am trying to decide whether to take Amex points into CO or into ANA. If I could redeem at the business level on ANA then big advantage to ANA. If I have to pay F then things swing back in the direction of CO.
This matters to me because I am trying to decide whether to take Amex points into CO or into ANA. If I could redeem at the business level on ANA then big advantage to ANA. If I have to pay F then things swing back in the direction of CO.
And honestly, there's no way to tell how it's going to be going forward. It could go the UA way because many of the mileage things have been going that direction. Though other items have been going in CO's direction, including systems, so it could go the CO way. CO is a bit non-standard among American FF programs by publishing First Class as Business.
Though UA publishes business class on 2-cabin planes, and you can sometimes book that with foreign miles even though you're getting F from what I understand.
Do you need to make a decision on these points now?
May 11, 2011, 3:18 pm
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Aeroplan has the same issue with US/UA "first class" domestically - the online engine treats it as first class.
May 11, 2011, 3:51 pm
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It will be the one that you don't like. And if someone else likes the one you don't like it won't be that one either.
All in all, no one will like what is liked.
Just don't mess with the soup.
All in all, no one will like what is liked.
Just don't mess with the soup.
May 11, 2011, 4:20 pm
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It will be considered the new "FirstBusiness" level, since Domestic First, International Business, and BusinessFirst are all already in use terminology-wise.
May 11, 2011, 9:49 pm
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May 12, 2011, 2:40 pm
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In Germany that is called "Etikettenschwindel", bogus claim 
I just hope an award reservation in CO I class will automatically become a UA O class, should the flight be operated by the new UA and not by CO.
May 15, 2011, 1:54 pm
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I flew CO on 4 segments in the past couple of days:
DCA-IAH: First
IAH-MSY: First
MSY-IAH: Economy (single class RJ)
IAH-BWI: Business
All three of the premium cabins were 737-800/900.
DCA-IAH: First
IAH-MSY: First
MSY-IAH: Economy (single class RJ)
IAH-BWI: Business
All three of the premium cabins were 737-800/900.