Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 pm
Local lockdowns in the UK
Jan 2, 2022, 3:47 am
#8686
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More importantly the rise is not sustained anymore so harder to justify restrictions. The doubling every 2 days no longer exists, we always knew that it would run out of steam eventually.
They need to change isolation rules, it’s the effects of the virus policy not the virus itself causing the problem now.
as for the socialising bit January is always a slow month.
They need to change isolation rules, it’s the effects of the virus policy not the virus itself causing the problem now.
as for the socialising bit January is always a slow month.
Jan 2, 2022, 4:43 am
#8687
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Well it changed this morning, to avoid economic lock-up. Vaccinated contacts don't need to isolate anymore, and vaccinated people who get infected can exit isolation after 7 days, 5 with a negative test, instead of 10 at the moment. Sounds like the French government has accepted that Omicron is here and most people are going to get it anyway...
Jan 2, 2022, 5:14 am
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I can see my posting earlier today on the grumblings from the healthcare front line provoked a bit of a debate, and I can see both sides not being in healthcare myself but have many contacts and friends who are - many of whom I have not seen for ages because they're either at work or sleeping. But I am very aware of the frustration the frontline has to endure caring for unvaccinated COVID patients. One thing I should add is that the hippocratic oath is not under threat, the doors would be open to anyone needing treatment, and treatment would always be provided to the best of their ability with the resources available, but those who made a choice not to get vaccinated and ended up in hospital could / should be presented a bill after the event.
As I said earlier, I am just relaying the reality of what I get fed back from the healthcare front line. They are weary and whilst they appreciate everyone has to have a choice, some choices might have consequences. There's no easy answer to all of this.
As I said earlier, I am just relaying the reality of what I get fed back from the healthcare front line. They are weary and whilst they appreciate everyone has to have a choice, some choices might have consequences. There's no easy answer to all of this.
It is not just healthcare either. How much additional liberty have we all lost, over and above the minimum necessary, because of delays and half measures because the government lives in fear of a minority? I listened but now I’m done listening. If this cult of the self that infects our society wants to continue making measurably wrong choices then, if push comes to shove, they should accept the brunt of the consequences. Britain does a great job of providing a safety net for the bad choices we all make through life. A safety net requires resources and resources are always finite.
Jan 2, 2022, 6:36 am
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I have no idea how far this pandemic has to go, but we may reach a point where healthcare comes down to priorities and choices. Resources are alway finite and I, personally, think it is wrong if those who’ve made the right choices are made to suffer because those who made the wrong call are clogging up the healthcare system.
It is not just healthcare either. How much additional liberty have we all lost, over and above the minimum necessary, because of delays and half measures because the government lives in fear of a minority? I listened but now I’m done listening. If this cult of the self that infects our society wants to continue making measurably wrong choices then, if push comes to shove, they should accept the brunt of the consequences. Britain does a great job of providing a safety net for the bad choices we all make through life. A safety net requires resources and resources are always finite.
It is not just healthcare either. How much additional liberty have we all lost, over and above the minimum necessary, because of delays and half measures because the government lives in fear of a minority? I listened but now I’m done listening. If this cult of the self that infects our society wants to continue making measurably wrong choices then, if push comes to shove, they should accept the brunt of the consequences. Britain does a great job of providing a safety net for the bad choices we all make through life. A safety net requires resources and resources are always finite.
Jan 2, 2022, 9:22 am
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Daily data:
Cases 137,583 (108,893 last Sunday)
Deaths 73 (3)
People vaccinated up to and including 1 January 2022:
First dose: 51,771,547
Second dose: 47,412,410
Booster: 33,928,754
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 43.1% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 50.2%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 140.0 today.
Cases 137,583 (108,893 last Sunday)
Deaths 73 (3)
People vaccinated up to and including 1 January 2022:
First dose: 51,771,547
Second dose: 47,412,410
Booster: 33,928,754
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 43.1% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 50.2%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 140.0 today.
Jan 2, 2022, 9:32 am
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There is yet another data issue with today's figures, adding to the uncertainty caused by erratic reporting over the holiday period.
The government dashboard says:
I think this means that the number of cases was overstated on the last two days and is understated today but I'm not entirely sure. 
The "processing issue" suggests that the process is still a manual one, rather than being automated, and that someone forgot a step.
Wales has reported case numbers today, but neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have. I think it'll still be a few days before we have reliable data from which we can determine trends.
The government dashboard says:
Because of a processing issue, positive lateral flow tests followed by a negative PCR test in England were not removed on 31 Dec 2021 or 1 January 2022. Today's figures include removals for 3 days.
The "processing issue" suggests that the process is still a manual one, rather than being automated, and that someone forgot a step.Wales has reported case numbers today, but neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have. I think it'll still be a few days before we have reliable data from which we can determine trends.
Jan 2, 2022, 9:43 am
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There is yet another data issue with today's figures, adding to the uncertainty caused by erratic reporting over the holiday period.
The government dashboard says:I think this means that the number of cases was overstated on the last two days and is understated today but I'm not entirely sure. The "processing issue" suggests that the process is still a manual one, rather than being automated, and that someone forgot a step.
Wales has reported case numbers today, but neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have. I think it'll still be a few days before we have reliable data from which we can determine trends.
The government dashboard says:I think this means that the number of cases was overstated on the last two days and is understated today but I'm not entirely sure.
The "processing issue" suggests that the process is still a manual one, rather than being automated, and that someone forgot a step.Wales has reported case numbers today, but neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have. I think it'll still be a few days before we have reliable data from which we can determine trends.
Jan 3, 2022, 9:25 am
#8693
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New Scottish record of 20k today.
Jan 3, 2022, 10:27 am
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Daily data:
Cases 157,758 (98,515 last Monday)
Deaths 42 (143)
People vaccinated up to and including 2 January 2022:
First dose: 51,800,798
Second dose: 47,451,922
Booster: 34,205,472
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 50.0% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 17.0%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 125.6 today. Only England and Scotland reporting cases and England reporting deaths today. Scotland reported a record 20k cases today, however England remains flat. Still no healthcare data to report.
Cases 157,758 (98,515 last Monday)
Deaths 42 (143)
People vaccinated up to and including 2 January 2022:
First dose: 51,800,798
Second dose: 47,451,922
Booster: 34,205,472
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 50.0% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 17.0%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 125.6 today. Only England and Scotland reporting cases and England reporting deaths today. Scotland reported a record 20k cases today, however England remains flat. Still no healthcare data to report.
Jan 3, 2022, 12:02 pm
#8695
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The Standard was hinting at the opportunity of England dropping the need for pre-departure test (but maintaining the PCR on day 2...). We'll see.
Jan 3, 2022, 12:25 pm
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That day 2 scam needs to die a death soonest.
Jan 3, 2022, 12:59 pm
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Jan 3, 2022, 1:06 pm
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Jan 3, 2022, 1:08 pm
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The Daily Mail is headlining on cases having perhaps peaked in London, and having looked at this a few days ago, the more recent datum for M25 London is suggesting that numbers are now declining. That doesn't rule out another bounce and a new peak. But very few London boroughs are in the high incident rate list, and those that are such as Havering and Croydon are showing either declines or plateaux. Lambeth and the neighbouring boroughs are now showing sharp declines. Other parts of the UK are generally increasing, perhaps not at quite the pace as London saw, though for Northern Ireland in particular we don't have a decent data flow yet.
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