Local lockdowns in the UK
#6856
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Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Further content in his replies
Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Further content in his replies
#6857
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Indeed another big drop, pulling down the rolling 7 day average, the 7 days per 100k and the 14 days per 100k. 7 days per 100k is 401, 14 days is 875, which means 7 over 14 is 0.4583 (45.83%). So it is a real drop, given that 4 days ago the 7 day rate per 100k was 500.
#6858
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I think though that this should be discounted by the number of tests carried out. The gov.uk isn't showing the last 2-3 days but the latest 7 day average was 5% lower than the one before, and the positivity rate was still climbing. So though the wave is ebbing, it's not retreating as fast as it would otherwise seem (unfortunately).
#6859
Agreed. Positivity rate still going up, test number decreasing, I am still in mode Wait & See before saying cases are actually decreasing. If the positivity rate is still increasing in the next 3-4 days while test numbers are decreasing then the transmission is increasing.
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Presumably a considerable percentage of the tests being carried out would have been in schools? Of the data we are actually given, perhaps the death data is more important right now and for the next 2-3 weeks until we get a clearer picture of what is going on sans education. If that's not showing signs of peaking and then coming down, over the holidays, I think we will have a problem.
#6861
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Presumably a considerable percentage of the tests being carried out would have been in schools? Of the data we are actually given, perhaps the death data is more important right now and for the next 2-3 weeks until we get a clearer picture of what is going on sans education. If that's not showing signs of peaking and then coming down, over the holidays, I think we will have a problem.
One clue: Scotland has been on school holidays for a few more weeks than England, their Delta rates have been falling since 1 July and their hospitalisation rates have been coming down since about 18 July. ICU admissions are still rising but maybe levelling. The death rate is too difficult to tell since they average only about 4 a day anyway.
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Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Further content in his replies
Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Further content in his replies
#6863
Join Date: May 2014
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Happy Monday! Two questions to start off the week if I may:
1. Is it happening to anyone else that the NHS LFT boxes contain 7x of everything but the little sachet with the liquid in which you swirl the swab? My OH is having to test every other day, basically, because of the rules for crews and the last three boxes had that surprise. They all are of different batch numbers.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
1. Is it happening to anyone else that the NHS LFT boxes contain 7x of everything but the little sachet with the liquid in which you swirl the swab? My OH is having to test every other day, basically, because of the rules for crews and the last three boxes had that surprise. They all are of different batch numbers.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
#6864
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1. Is it happening to anyone else that the NHS LFT boxes contain 7x of everything but the little sachet with the liquid in which you swirl the swab? My OH is having to test every other day, basically, because of the rules for crews and the last three boxes had that surprise. They all are of different batch numbers.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
The exemption from self isolation will apply to all those double vaccinated from 16 August, but in the mean time the critcal services exemption is employer led, so they should tell cabin crew if they are in scope for this. In the case of BA I can't see this applying except in a few cases, for example for flight crew dedicated to specific services. For example it used to be the case that only a few pilots could fly to FNC, but I think that's been broadened out. I can see it applying to Loganair crew - leaving aside the fact that Scotland has a wider exemption anyway - since they don't have many staff on furlough and if a lot of their staff were told to isolate then services to the Highlands and Islands could be put in peril very quickly. The relevant document is here, but in your context it would be someone senior in BA who would be contacting the DfT to work out who is in scope.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...-for-employers
As a guide, I don't believe I am in scope for this exemption, though I am in scope for the older pilot scheme where some people can take daily tests, as used by the PM for 163 minutes last weekend.
#6865
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Happy Monday! Two questions to start off the week if I may:
1. Is it happening to anyone else that the NHS LFT boxes contain 7x of everything but the little sachet with the liquid in which you swirl the swab? My OH is having to test every other day, basically, because of the rules for crews and the last three boxes had that surprise. They all are of different batch numbers.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
1. Is it happening to anyone else that the NHS LFT boxes contain 7x of everything but the little sachet with the liquid in which you swirl the swab? My OH is having to test every other day, basically, because of the rules for crews and the last three boxes had that surprise. They all are of different batch numbers.
2. Are cabin crew key transport workers that can be exempt from self isolation if they get pinged? I can't seem to find a lot of info about it.
#6866
Join Date: May 2014
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There should be one buffer sachet per LFD along with one swab. Something is going wrong there. You can get large Innova boxes with 30 doses in them. These are supplied with 2 mini bottles of buffer in them, and in general you should get through 30 tests using just one of these mini bottles. So if you know someone who works for the NHS or other professions getting the box of 30 then they should be able to give you a spare bottle.
The exemption from self isolation will apply to all those double vaccinated from 16 August, but in the mean time the critcal services exemption is employer led, so they should tell cabin crew if they are in scope for this. In the case of BA I can't see this applying except in a few cases, for example for flight crew dedicated to specific services. For example it used to be the case that only a few pilots could fly to FNC, but I think that's been broadened out. I can see it applying to Loganair crew - leaving aside the fact that Scotland has a wider exemption anyway - since they don't have many staff on furlough and if a lot of their staff were told to isolate then services to the Highlands and Islands could be put in peril very quickly. The relevant document is here, but in your context it would be someone senior in BA who would be contacting the DfT to work out who is in scope.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...-for-employers
As a guide, I don't believe I am in scope for this exemption, though I am in scope for the older pilot scheme where some people can take daily tests, as used by the PM for 163 minutes last weekend.
The exemption from self isolation will apply to all those double vaccinated from 16 August, but in the mean time the critcal services exemption is employer led, so they should tell cabin crew if they are in scope for this. In the case of BA I can't see this applying except in a few cases, for example for flight crew dedicated to specific services. For example it used to be the case that only a few pilots could fly to FNC, but I think that's been broadened out. I can see it applying to Loganair crew - leaving aside the fact that Scotland has a wider exemption anyway - since they don't have many staff on furlough and if a lot of their staff were told to isolate then services to the Highlands and Islands could be put in peril very quickly. The relevant document is here, but in your context it would be someone senior in BA who would be contacting the DfT to work out who is in scope.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...-for-employers
As a guide, I don't believe I am in scope for this exemption, though I am in scope for the older pilot scheme where some people can take daily tests, as used by the PM for 163 minutes last weekend.
The self isolation policy feels unnecessarily overcooked. I'm sure BA and the DfT's combined powers will create something completely disconnected from logic or common sense... Who do I get to bribe in the NHS for an advance warning in case the Mrs and/or anyone in her social circle gets pinged? So that I can schedule an impromptu field visit to a company's site in Gorno-Badakhshan..
#6867
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Daily data:
Cases 24,950 (39,950 last Monday)
Deaths 14 (19)
Patients admitted 922 (740 on the 13th)
Patients in hospital 5,238 (4,102 on the 16th)
Patients in ventilation beds 715 (573 on the 16th)
People vaccinated up to and including 25 July 2021:
First dose: 46,589,211
Second dose:37,287,384
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 21.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 50.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 63.6 today. Another good day for cases gives us five consecutive days of significant falls.
Cases 24,950 (39,950 last Monday)
Deaths 14 (19)
Patients admitted 922 (740 on the 13th)
Patients in hospital 5,238 (4,102 on the 16th)
Patients in ventilation beds 715 (573 on the 16th)
People vaccinated up to and including 25 July 2021:
First dose: 46,589,211
Second dose:37,287,384
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 21.5% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 50.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 63.6 today. Another good day for cases gives us five consecutive days of significant falls.
Last edited by DaveS; Jul 26, 2021 at 10:22 am
#6868
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You can enter the UK, but you will need a negative pre arrival test and to fill out the passenger locator form. Also you will have to self isolate on arrival for 10 days or for as long as you are here if leaving before the end of 10 days. You will need to buy a post arrival day 2 and 8 test package as well if you are staying that long.
Your vaccine status won't change anything I am afraid.
Your vaccine status won't change anything I am afraid.
#6869
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Yes, unfortunately so. The US government stance on us entering the US really does not help.
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