Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 pm
Local lockdowns in the UK
Jun 10, 2021, 6:00 am
#5536
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Just to give a sense of perspective here. We think that so far vaccines in the UK have saved about 60,000 lives since 1 January (and I think that's an underestimate). Using the same calculation process, and hence an underestimate, face masks have saved about 25,000 lives in the UK in 2021, by being a barrier for the 30-40% of Covid patients who are asymptomatic, and the separate 10% with very mild symptoms such as a sore throat. When the reservoir of cases gets lower and lower, then the vaccine proportion will go up, and the face mask proportion will go down.
Jun 10, 2021, 7:01 am
#5538
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On face masks, I hope it becomes normalised to wear them if you’re unwell (eg you have a cold) and are having to take public transport…
Jun 10, 2021, 7:05 am
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Jun 10, 2021, 7:13 am
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I think a face mask will be normalised for many people for some time to come. As will a preference for drinking and dining al fresco. Three or even six months in, I would have said the old order, and old ways of doing things, would all reassert themselves in short order. Almost sixteen months in and I'm doubtful of this. I think the whole experience has, collectively speaking, changed us somewhat.
Jun 10, 2021, 7:16 am
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Your best bet from both a paperwork and quality of immunity perspective is to have both vaccines in England and late August / early September. So I would get her to plan a re-visit to Bracknell or Heathrow areas on the way to Scotland. Or push comes to the shove, a brief stop on the train at Newcastle on the way up...... By that time the national booking system should give good date options, but you won't see that until you are in mid August, as things stand.
Jun 10, 2021, 8:55 am
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Hi,
Just back from my 2nd AZ jab at my local college. Steady flow of people coming in .
Felt the needle going in this time unlike the first time but so far ok.
will take it easy tonight and not go out for my usual jog just to be safe.
Regards
Tbs
PS- The morning after- no side effects so far only a slight discomfort in my jabbed arm if i lift my elbow to be horizontal or above my shoulder ( ie stretching) but as I work on pc's and not heavy manual work it is not a bother.
Just back from my 2nd AZ jab at my local college. Steady flow of people coming in .
Felt the needle going in this time unlike the first time but so far ok.
will take it easy tonight and not go out for my usual jog just to be safe.
Regards
Tbs
PS- The morning after- no side effects so far only a slight discomfort in my jabbed arm if i lift my elbow to be horizontal or above my shoulder ( ie stretching) but as I work on pc's and not heavy manual work it is not a bother.
Last edited by The _Banking_Scot; Jun 11, 2021 at 6:46 am
Jun 10, 2021, 10:18 am
#5543
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They should open up AZ to those under 40 willing to take it as walk on ins.
Jun 10, 2021, 11:26 am
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https://twitter.com/CapitalScotNews/...40128?s=19itna
not good at all - seems our Pfizer supplies are drying up just when we need them the most.
They should open up AZ to those under 40 willing to take it as walk on ins.
not good at all - seems our Pfizer supplies are drying up just when we need them the most.
They should open up AZ to those under 40 willing to take it as walk on ins.
Jun 10, 2021, 11:49 am
#5545
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Daily data:
Cases 7,393 (5.274 last Wednesday)
Deaths 7 (18)
Patients admitted 153 (110 on the 30th)
Patients in hospital 1,048 (919 on the 1st)
Patients in ventilation beds 158 (129 on the 2nd)
People vaccinated up to and including 09 June 2021:
First dose: 40,886,878
Second dose: 28,857,102
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 63.2% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 1.9%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 7.9 today. We should be over the 70 million mark on vaccinations with today jabs.
Cases 7,393 (5.274 last Wednesday)
Deaths 7 (18)
Patients admitted 153 (110 on the 30th)
Patients in hospital 1,048 (919 on the 1st)
Patients in ventilation beds 158 (129 on the 2nd)
People vaccinated up to and including 09 June 2021:
First dose: 40,886,878
Second dose: 28,857,102
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 63.2% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 1.9%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 7.9 today. We should be over the 70 million mark on vaccinations with today jabs.
Jun 10, 2021, 12:13 pm
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And some more data:
https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/cases...e-vaccinations
Current risk of new daily COVID infection
“The COVID-19 situation in the UK has rapidly changed from one of the best performing nations to a nation again struggling with rising cases. Official confirmed cases are now around 7,500, which is the highest daily figure since late February. However, when you dig into the data, it’s clear that this is an epidemic among the unvaccinated and partially vaccinated populations in the UK and, due to the way vaccines have been rolled out, is largely affecting younger generations. The rapid rise is likely down to two compounding factors; increased social interaction and a newly dominant variant that is much more transmissible. It’s no surprise that people are becoming fatigued with social distancing after a long 15 months of restrictions, which will only encourage the spread. The good news is that fully vaccinated people have much greater protection. Vaccines are working and we want to encourage people to exercise caution, especially if they feel at all unwell, until they’ve been fully vaccinated. The race is on to fully vaccinate the whole population to save lives and return to normal life”
- in the unvaccinated: 1 in 2,908
- after 1 vaccine dose: 1 in 7,091
- after 2 vaccine doses : 1 in 22,455
“The COVID-19 situation in the UK has rapidly changed from one of the best performing nations to a nation again struggling with rising cases. Official confirmed cases are now around 7,500, which is the highest daily figure since late February. However, when you dig into the data, it’s clear that this is an epidemic among the unvaccinated and partially vaccinated populations in the UK and, due to the way vaccines have been rolled out, is largely affecting younger generations. The rapid rise is likely down to two compounding factors; increased social interaction and a newly dominant variant that is much more transmissible. It’s no surprise that people are becoming fatigued with social distancing after a long 15 months of restrictions, which will only encourage the spread. The good news is that fully vaccinated people have much greater protection. Vaccines are working and we want to encourage people to exercise caution, especially if they feel at all unwell, until they’ve been fully vaccinated. The race is on to fully vaccinate the whole population to save lives and return to normal life”
Jun 10, 2021, 12:20 pm
#5547
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I haven't really seen much faltering of supplies, I'm working as much as I have ever done. What may be behind this is that supplies have been a bit above normal for a few weeks and will dip back to a more normal level. Either way I suspect everyone will soon be allowed to book vaccines in the next few days. We had some 17 year olds yesterday.
Jun 10, 2021, 12:44 pm
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Jun 10, 2021, 1:06 pm
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No need to wait a week: hospital admissions are rising exponentially in North West England, specially for the most unvaccinated age group:
https://www.ft.com/content/f2ae00ee-...e-49f5cb540321
https://www.ft.com/content/f2ae00ee-...e-49f5cb540321