Local lockdowns in the UK
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Interesting data here that applies to London, and the weekly key points for both London and England make for interesting reading with respect to "where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate".
- An additional 202 deaths in London hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 and an additional 12 where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate were announced in the week ending 15 December 2020. This compares with 207 and 16 for the previous week.
- A total of 1,878 deaths in hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 and 90 where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate were announced for England as whole. This compares with 1,938 and 111 for the previous week.
- The total number of COVID-19 deaths reported in London hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 is now 7,468. The total number of deaths in London hospitals where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate is now 348.
- This compares to figures of 45,126 and 2,162 for English hospitals as a whole.
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Interesting data here that applies to London, and the weekly key points for both London and England make for interesting reading with respect to "where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate".
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Hopefully some careful data analysis will prevail and London will come out of T3 soon.
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Hopefully some careful data analysis will prevail and London will come out of T3 soon.
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Question for those in the know. As we've given up on travel abroad this Xmas, the Mrs and I were considering at least a couple of days' staycation in London, which is where we live, but in a different borough. Now, the question is: with London in Tier 3 - and knowing full well nothing's open - can we book a hotel for a couple of nights?
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Question for those in the know. As we've given up on travel abroad this Xmas, the Mrs and I were considering at least a couple of days' staycation in London, which is where we live, but in a different borough. Now, the question is: with London in Tier 3 - and knowing full well nothing's open - can we book a hotel for a couple of nights?
If the hotel is open, you will be welcomed.
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Question for those in the know. As we've given up on travel abroad this Xmas, the Mrs and I were considering at least a couple of days' staycation in London, which is where we live, but in a different borough. Now, the question is: with London in Tier 3 - and knowing full well nothing's open - can we book a hotel for a couple of nights?
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Thanks both. It would be over the 'relaxed' Xmas period, hopefully.
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Interesting data here that applies to London, and the weekly key points for both London and England make for interesting reading with respect to "where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate".
- An additional 202 deaths in London hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 and an additional 12 where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate were announced in the week ending 15 December 2020. This compares with 207 and 16 for the previous week.
- A total of 1,878 deaths in hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 and 90 where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate were announced for England as whole. This compares with 1,938 and 111 for the previous week.
- The total number of COVID-19 deaths reported in London hospitals of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 is now 7,468. The total number of deaths in London hospitals where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate is now 348.
- This compares to figures of 45,126 and 2,162 for English hospitals as a whole.
That said, it's amazing how the predictions that Whitty and his un-merry crew flourish always turn out to be over-egged.
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Tier revisions just announced, from 00:01 Saturday 19 December.
Moving up to tier 3
Bedfordshire
Buckinghamshire
Berkshire
Peterborough
The whole of Hertfordshire
Surrey, except Waverley
Hastings and Rother
Portsmouth, Gosport and Havant
Dropping to tier 2
Bristol and North Somerset
Dropping to tier 1
Herefordshire
Moving up to tier 3
Bedfordshire
Buckinghamshire
Berkshire
Peterborough
The whole of Hertfordshire
Surrey, except Waverley
Hastings and Rother
Portsmouth, Gosport and Havant
Dropping to tier 2
Bristol and North Somerset
Dropping to tier 1
Herefordshire
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This is very interesting data. However, I am conscious that there's a lag between infection and hospitalisation of about 2-3 weeks, and a further similar lag between hospitalisation and death, so, as always, we do need more data.
That said, it's amazing how the predictions that Whitty and his un-merry crew flourish always turn out to be over-egged.
That said, it's amazing how the predictions that Whitty and his un-merry crew flourish always turn out to be over-egged.
They are predictions that provoke palliative responses. The measures taken ensure the predictions are not met.
Surely that outcome is preferable to giving Whitty an "I told you so!" moment.
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Chapter and verse:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/guidance...nd-restaurants
But it seems likely in-house bars, restaurants, gyms, pools and fripperies like club lounges will be closed, or limited in access and/or their levels of service. If any of these things are important to you, it's maybe best to check.
- If necessary, you can stay in a hotel, hostel or B&B during the Christmas period, in line with the rules in your tier. This includes tier 3 areas between 22 and 28 December, as long as you’re staying by yourself or with other members of your household, or support bubble. You should not gather as a Christmas bubble in a hotel, hostel or B&B in any tier unless a member of your Christmas bubble lives there permanently.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/guidance...nd-restaurants
But it seems likely in-house bars, restaurants, gyms, pools and fripperies like club lounges will be closed, or limited in access and/or their levels of service. If any of these things are important to you, it's maybe best to check.
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Thanks IAN-UK. To be honest with you the idea would be to go somewhere we don't normally go and to stay someplace we don't normally stay at... Room ordering will suit us just fine.
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Changes to areas in Scotland with effect from 6pm Friday 18 December
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2020/439/contents/made
Moving from Level 2 to Level 3
Aberdeen City
Aberdeenshire
East Lothian
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2020/439/contents/made
Moving from Level 2 to Level 3
Aberdeen City
Aberdeenshire
East Lothian