Class P tickets on LH not eligible for TK Miles
Jun 23, 2023, 9:01 pm
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Class P tickets on LH not eligible for TK Miles
Recently completed a TLV-MUC-HND flight in business on LH and it seems the flight is not eligible for miles and points as it was a class P ticket.
Why is this and what is it with the global refusal across multiple airlines to recognise class P tickets?
Why is this and what is it with the global refusal across multiple airlines to recognise class P tickets?
Jun 24, 2023, 12:47 am
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FFPs such as M&S aren't issuing miles from partner flights because they are being generous. They do it because they get paid for them by the operating airline.
So if LH doesn't want P-class tickets to earn miles, then P-class tickets don't earn miles. *A doesn't seem inclined to stop them.
Jun 24, 2023, 1:57 am
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It's not a "global refusal across multiples airlines to recognise P tickets". It's "Lufthansa won't pay other FFPs to issue miles for P class tickets".
FFPs such as M&S aren't issuing miles from partner flights because they are being generous. They do it because they get paid for them by the operating airline.
So if LH doesn't want P-class tickets to earn miles, then P-class tickets don't earn miles. *A doesn't seem inclined to stop them.
FFPs such as M&S aren't issuing miles from partner flights because they are being generous. They do it because they get paid for them by the operating airline.
So if LH doesn't want P-class tickets to earn miles, then P-class tickets don't earn miles. *A doesn't seem inclined to stop them.
Its an issue because more and more discounted Business class flights are being issued as P class across multiple airlines but many airlines are refusing to grant miles/points for them
Jun 24, 2023, 2:02 am
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The absurdity is that TK will give you miles for LX P class (and maybe OS?) so when dealing with LH G offers in business class one needs to carefully select flights if crediting to TK M&S.
Jun 24, 2023, 2:17 am
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Jun 24, 2023, 4:09 am
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The rise of TK across Germany has terrified LH (despite having been TK's initial sponsor to join Star Alliance), hence the refusal to allow any P credits to M&S. The fact that LH has abandoned many German regions (relegated to EW) or downgraded feeder flights with poor service to FRA/MUC has nothing to do with it of course. 
Oddly enough pax not near FRA/MUC rather fly a proper full service airline via IST (especially east and south) than LH's bargain basement service offer via its two hubs. Avoiding FRA in the process is just a delightful bonus.
Oddly enough pax not near FRA/MUC rather fly a proper full service airline via IST (especially east and south) than LH's bargain basement service offer via its two hubs. Avoiding FRA in the process is just a delightful bonus.
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Jun 24, 2023, 5:06 am
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And all it takes it a 10-second check of www.wheretocredit.com to see whether a given fare class with earn miles...
Jun 24, 2023, 5:09 am
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And all it takes it a 10-second check of www.wheretocredit.com to see whether a given fare class with earn miles...
And all it takes it a 10-second check of www.wheretocredit.com to see whether a given fare class with earn miles...
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Jun 24, 2023, 5:56 am
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[QUOTE=craigthemif;35358351]I don't really have an issue with airlines offering "Light" Business Class fares that don't earn miles. It's a commercial decision made by the airline and the passenger can choose a different airline or determine whether the fare savings compensates for the lack of miles.
And all it takes it a 10-second check of www.wheretocredit.com to see whether a given fare class with earn miles...[/
P class seems to be relatively new for most airlines so most wouldn’t be aware of this issue.
Also I class biz fares are not affected and they are typically cheaper than P class
it may well take 10 seconds to check but I guess it takes even less time to post condescending comments
And all it takes it a 10-second check of www.wheretocredit.com to see whether a given fare class with earn miles...[/
P class seems to be relatively new for most airlines so most wouldn’t be aware of this issue.
Also I class biz fares are not affected and they are typically cheaper than P class
it may well take 10 seconds to check but I guess it takes even less time to post condescending comments
Jun 24, 2023, 6:06 am
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If you need your own thread to complain about airline mileage-earning policies - rather than to be informed about why it happens and how you can easily check which fares earn miles - I'll leave you to it...
Jun 24, 2023, 6:19 am
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[QUOTE=craigthemif;35358449]If you need your own thread to complain about airline mileage-earning policies - rather than to be informed about why it happens and how you can easily check which fares earn miles - I'll leave you to it...[/
Thank you oh wise one
Thank you oh wise one